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::They do appear in the article [[w:Dependent territory#United Kingdom|list of dependent territories]], however they're under the sub-heading of ''Crown dependencies''. That's not the same as "dependencies of the UK". For the purposes of categorisation (in many industries, etc. not just on wikipedia), these islands are normally categorised as, and often treated as countries, this is why they have their own ISO 3166-1 country codes. [[User:Danrok|Danrok]] ([[User talk:Danrok|talk]]) 03:05, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

::They do appear in the article [[w:Dependent territory#United Kingdom|list of dependent territories]], however they're under the sub-heading of ''Crown dependencies''. That's not the same as "dependencies of the UK". For the purposes of categorisation (in many industries, etc. not just on wikipedia), these islands are normally categorised as, and often treated as countries, this is why they have their own ISO 3166-1 country codes. [[User:Danrok|Danrok]] ([[User talk:Danrok|talk]]) 03:05, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

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:::[[w:ISO 3166-1|ISO 3166-1]] defines codes for both countries and dependencies, so them having the ISO 3166-1 GG, JE and IM codes doesn't say anything about whether they are countries or not: other dependencies like [[w:Bermuda|Bermuda]] (BM) and [[w:Guam|Guam]] (GU) have "country" codes as well, as do some integral parts of countries like [[w:French Guiana|French Guiana]] (GF) and the [[w:Caribbean Netherlands|Dutch special municipalities]] (BQ). Most WP ranking lists too list both countries and dependencies, as do most others. I wonder if any list/categorization by country anywhere includes the crown dependencies but doesn't include the [[w:British Overseas Territories|BOT]]s, the [[w:U.S. insular area|U.S. insular area]]s, the Chinese [[w:Special administrative region|SAR]]s, etc.

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:::In Wikipedia's [[w:Dependent territory|Dependent territory]] article, Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man are grouped under "Crown dependencies", but they are still in the [[w:Dependent territory#Lists of dependent territories|Lists of dependent territories]] section. There is a separate section for areas with special status (like the [[w:Aland Islands|Aland Islands]] and [[w:Hong Kong|Hong Kong]]/[[w:Macau|Macau]]), but the CDs aren't part of that. And why would they even be called "crown dependencies" if they aren't dependencies? [[User:SiBr4|SiBr₄]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|talk]]) 08:42, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

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