User talk:Miss-Sophie
Re: File:JamesMylne.jpg deletion
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:I requested the deletion of two of the images, user James Mylne uploaded: [[:File:JamesMylne.jpg]] and [[:File:Drawing of Jerri hall by James Mylne in Evening Standard Newspaper.jpg]], because of the reasons given on the pages [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:James Mylne.jpg]] and [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:Drawing of Jerri hall by James Mylne in Evening Standard Newspaper.jpg]]. User James Mylne was informed on [[:User talk:James Mylne|his talk page]], since he is the uploader, and could have - on the two mentioned pages with the deletion request - contributed his view to a discussion, whether the pictures should be deleted or not. He didn't respond, nor did any other user like for example you, so there was no discussion. An administrator for Wikimedia Commons found the reasons, given for the deletion, adequate and deleted the files after about a week. This is the usual process. I didn't see a problem with the two still existing images James Mylne uploaded ([[:File:Polo Pony, ballpoint biro drawing.jpg]] and [[:File:McQueen ballpoint biro drawing art.jpg]]), since no other copyright holder but him, the drawer, seems to be involved there. But this was not the case with the two pictures, that were deleted on my request, because the OTRS permission was insufficient, meaning the permission was not legitimate. --[[User:Miss-Sophie|Miss-Sophie]] ([[User talk:Miss-Sophie#top|talk]]) 12:19, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
:I requested the deletion of two of the images, user James Mylne uploaded: [[:File:JamesMylne.jpg]] and [[:File:Drawing of Jerri hall by James Mylne in Evening Standard Newspaper.jpg]], because of the reasons given on the pages [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:James Mylne.jpg]] and [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:Drawing of Jerri hall by James Mylne in Evening Standard Newspaper.jpg]]. User James Mylne was informed on [[:User talk:James Mylne|his talk page]], since he is the uploader, and could have - on the two mentioned pages with the deletion request - contributed his view to a discussion, whether the pictures should be deleted or not. He didn't respond, nor did any other user like for example you, so there was no discussion. An administrator for Wikimedia Commons found the reasons, given for the deletion, adequate and deleted the files after about a week. This is the usual process. I didn't see a problem with the two still existing images James Mylne uploaded ([[:File:Polo Pony, ballpoint biro drawing.jpg]] and [[:File:McQueen ballpoint biro drawing art.jpg]]), since no other copyright holder but him, the drawer, seems to be involved there. But this was not the case with the two pictures, that were deleted on my request, because the OTRS permission was insufficient, meaning the permission was not legitimate. --[[User:Miss-Sophie|Miss-Sophie]] ([[User talk:Miss-Sophie#top|talk]]) 12:19, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
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: (by James Mylne) Hi Sophie. for the file: 'File:JamesMylne.jpg' I have been given permission to use that image by the photographer Danfung Dennis himself via email. I did forward this email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org 2 days ago, I included his personal email address for verification by you/wiki-commons. I don't know what else I can do in this case. If there is something (hopefully something straightforward), please let me know. Thanks. James
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:: (by James Mylne) Hi Sophie. for the file: 'File:JamesMylne.jpg' I have been given permission to use that image by the photographer Danfung Dennis himself via email. I did forward this email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org 2 days ago, I included his personal email address for verification by you/wiki-commons. I don't know what else I can do in this case. If there is something (hopefully something straightforward), please let me know. Thanks. James
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::Hi James, I can't undelete the picture, I'm just a "normal" user, but I will right now inform the administrator, who deleted it on my request, on his talk page and ask what should be done in this case. I don't know about the best way to handle an undeletion request, since I have never been in this situation before. If you provided a legitimate permission by Danfung Dennis, an undeletion should be possible.
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:::Hi James, I can't undelete the picture, I'm just a "normal" user, but I will right now inform the administrator, who deleted it on my request, on his talk page and ask what should be done in this case. I don't know about the best way to handle an undeletion request, since I have never been in this situation before. If you provided a legitimate permission by Danfung Dennis, an undeletion should be possible.
::I came across your uploads, as the newspaper picture with your Jerry Hall drawing (which looks like a photo, quite impressive, I also especially admire the horse drawing) lay in the category of images related to the Rolling Stones and I sometimes add Rolling Stones pictures to this category (and later Wikipedia articles). I had a closer look, also on the other pictures by this uploader (you), and decided for a deletion request in the two cases because of the given reasons.
::I came across your uploads, as the newspaper picture with your Jerry Hall drawing (which looks like a photo, quite impressive, I also especially admire the horse drawing) lay in the category of images related to the Rolling Stones and I sometimes add Rolling Stones pictures to this category (and later Wikipedia articles). I had a closer look, also on the other pictures by this uploader (you), and decided for a deletion request in the two cases because of the given reasons.
::I saw, you also have a Flickr account, so you might find the following an interesting option for future uploads to Wikimedia: Often I browse Flickr for good photos for Wiki. If I find an adequate one, I ask the Flickr user, if he/she would publish it under a free Commons license. It's easier and faster to upload an image from Flickr to Wikimedia Commons than to do it via OTRS permission. Therefor you have to change the owner settings for the respective picture in your Flickr account (option "edit" under "owner settings" in the right column next to the picture on Flickr). Choose the Attribution Share Alike license from the appearing menu. When doing it this way, no additional written permission to OTRS is needed, for only you, the owner of the account, can do this licensing of your Flickr images, nobody else, so it's obvious you agree with the given license and according usage by other people. When uploading it to Wikimedia Commons afterwards, choose the "it is a work from Flickr" option.
::I saw, you also have a Flickr account, so you might find the following an interesting option for future uploads to Wikimedia: Often I browse Flickr for good photos for Wiki. If I find an adequate one, I ask the Flickr user, if he/she would publish it under a free Commons license. It's easier and faster to upload an image from Flickr to Wikimedia Commons than to do it via OTRS permission. Therefor you have to change the owner settings for the respective picture in your Flickr account (option "edit" under "owner settings" in the right column next to the picture on Flickr). Choose the Attribution Share Alike license from the appearing menu. When doing it this way, no additional written permission to OTRS is needed, for only you, the owner of the account, can do this licensing of your Flickr images, nobody else, so it's obvious you agree with the given license and according usage by other people. When uploading it to Wikimedia Commons afterwards, choose the "it is a work from Flickr" option.
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