User talk:Jimbo Wales

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:::::We have to start somewhere, don't we? We can't just not do anything because the alternatives would take too much work. Even if we do all what I suggested, there is still a lot of work ahead of us, and there will still be tons of ways to easily game the system. Doesn't mean we shouldn't start at ''some'' point. --[[User:Conti|Conti]]|[[User talk:Conti|✉]] 12:58, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::We have to start somewhere, don't we? We can't just not do anything because the alternatives would take too much work. Even if we do all what I suggested, there is still a lot of work ahead of us, and there will still be tons of ways to easily game the system. Doesn't mean we shouldn't start at ''some'' point. --[[User:Conti|Conti]]|[[User talk:Conti|✉]] 12:58, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:Could we keep these issues separate? I believe Odder wants Jimmy's opinion on his case at this point. I too would like to hear his explanation, given that many editors in this community went above and beyond what we would for any other editor (so, yes, we did treat him differently to others), and all we got in return was a heap of aggression from him. Not cool Jimmy. [[User:Russavia|russavia]] ([[User talk:Russavia|talk]]) 14:00, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:Could we keep these issues separate? I believe Odder wants Jimmy's opinion on his case at this point. I too would like to hear his explanation, given that many editors in this community went above and beyond what we would for any other editor (so, yes, we did treat him differently to others), and all we got in return was a heap of aggression from him. Not cool Jimmy. [[User:Russavia|russavia]] ([[User talk:Russavia|talk]]) 14:00, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
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== "Ample evidence" for [[:File:Paul Myners.jpg|File:Paul Myners.jpg]] (copied from en.wikipedia) ==
 
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::There are people who are only alive because they weren't wearing seatbelts. There are even people who are alive only because they are obese (it involved a flesh-eating bacterium stopped by the fat). That doesn't mean that being thin is bad and obesity is good, even though "if they followed medical advice and lost weight they would have died". [[User:Ken Arromdee|Ken Arromdee]] ([[User talk:Ken Arromdee|talk]]) 16:00, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 
::There are people who are only alive because they weren't wearing seatbelts. There are even people who are alive only because they are obese (it involved a flesh-eating bacterium stopped by the fat). That doesn't mean that being thin is bad and obesity is good, even though "if they followed medical advice and lost weight they would have died". [[User:Ken Arromdee|Ken Arromdee]] ([[User talk:Ken Arromdee|talk]]) 16:00, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Your irrelevant analogy doesn't even match what happened: we didn't follow Jimbo's advice, and it turns out it was good we didn't. Jimbo in effect demanded a lowering of standards, which he didn't get, and now it turns out that the existing approach was correct in this specific instance and that the lower standard demanded would have had us host a copyright violation. What is your actual point about what Commons should do? Lower standards regardless? Almost every aspect of this debate (including most of what Jimbo has said) points to trying to raise standards across the board. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|talk]]) 00:42, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Your irrelevant analogy doesn't even match what happened: we didn't follow Jimbo's advice, and it turns out it was good we didn't. Jimbo in effect demanded a lowering of standards, which he didn't get, and now it turns out that the existing approach was correct in this specific instance and that the lower standard demanded would have had us host a copyright violation. What is your actual point about what Commons should do? Lower standards regardless? Almost every aspect of this debate (including most of what Jimbo has said) points to trying to raise standards across the board. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|talk]]) 00:42, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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