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:I think a "closed farm" may be the same as a courtyard farm or what the Germans call a [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vierseithof vierseithof] or [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vierkanthof vierkanthof] I also found the German terms ganghaus and durchgangshaus (passage or corridor house) may be similar in concept. I am not aware of any courtyard farms in the U.S. but they seem relatively common in Europe. The dogtrot houses in the U.S. are not part of a courtyard. Another thought about dogtrot houses is that in the hot summers the kitchen being separate structure from the other half of the house is another reason for their design. [[User:Jim Derby|Jim Derby]] ([[User talk:Jim Derby#top|talk]]) 12:35, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:I think a "closed farm" may be the same as a courtyard farm or what the Germans call a [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vierseithof vierseithof] or [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vierkanthof vierkanthof] I also found the German terms ganghaus and durchgangshaus (passage or corridor house) may be similar in concept. I am not aware of any courtyard farms in the U.S. but they seem relatively common in Europe. The dogtrot houses in the U.S. are not part of a courtyard. Another thought about dogtrot houses is that in the hot summers the kitchen being separate structure from the other half of the house is another reason for their design. [[User:Jim Derby|Jim Derby]] ([[User talk:Jim Derby#top|talk]]) 12:35, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 
::Yes '''courtyard farm''' seems to be the term! A Swedish possible equivalent may be "kringbyggd gård" (Juandev: may the Spolí-farm possibly be the remains of a former courtyard type farm, or did they become inspired by one?). But the [[sv:Radby]] or [[de:Reihendorf]], which seems to be "a collective version" of the courtyard concept, is also in need of a similar passage through a building. They were common in southern Sweden until the land reforms during 18'th and 19'th century. Now only a few remains, among them one in [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=56.749717,16.72929&ll=56.749929,16.729721&spn=0.003147,0.010568&num=1&t=h&z=17 Långlöt]. I think we would need a general term/category for ''rural''/farm buildings with passages, but formulated in a way to keep away for instance [[:File:Gillbergska genomfarten.jpg|urban streets passing through buildings]], which is something else (and certainly not a "sv:portlider"!). May a [[:Category:Farmhouses with passages]] make sense? Other suggestions?[[User:Taxelson|Taxelson]] ([[User talk:Taxelson|talk]]) 14:41, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 
::Yes '''courtyard farm''' seems to be the term! A Swedish possible equivalent may be "kringbyggd gård" (Juandev: may the Spolí-farm possibly be the remains of a former courtyard type farm, or did they become inspired by one?). But the [[sv:Radby]] or [[de:Reihendorf]], which seems to be "a collective version" of the courtyard concept, is also in need of a similar passage through a building. They were common in southern Sweden until the land reforms during 18'th and 19'th century. Now only a few remains, among them one in [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=56.749717,16.72929&ll=56.749929,16.729721&spn=0.003147,0.010568&num=1&t=h&z=17 Långlöt]. I think we would need a general term/category for ''rural''/farm buildings with passages, but formulated in a way to keep away for instance [[:File:Gillbergska genomfarten.jpg|urban streets passing through buildings]], which is something else (and certainly not a "sv:portlider"!). May a [[:Category:Farmhouses with passages]] make sense? Other suggestions?[[User:Taxelson|Taxelson]] ([[User talk:Taxelson|talk]]) 14:41, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:::Hello. I just started a new category [[:Category:Farm types by building arrangement]] which includes [[:Category:Courtyard farms]] which must have passages somewhere. If you see better European terms to use for these categories feel free to change them. I am not sure how many "Farmhouses with passages" there are, I do know courtyard farms exist in many countries. Farm buildings are noted as being seperate, T, L or U shaped, courtyard, longhouse or other shapes many of which are listed in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housebarn housebarn] which is why I started a new set of categories.[[User:Jim Derby|Jim Derby]] ([[User talk:Jim Derby#top|talk]]) 14:56, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

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