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User talk:Iwan Novirion

‎Re:Minangkabau Wikipedia logo and SiteNotice: new section
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Yours sincerely, [[User talk:INeverCry|INeverCry]] 01:54, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Yours sincerely, [[User talk:INeverCry|INeverCry]] 01:54, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

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== Re:Minangkabau Wikipedia logo and SiteNotice ==

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Hi Iwan,

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thanks for the message and the questions — I see that you asked them both here and on my talk page on the Minangkabau Wikipedia, but let me just answer them here; I hope that's OK with you.

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First of all, it is highly unusual for us (Wikimedia communities) to link to external websites through our SiteNotice announcements; I can't remember the last time any major Wikipedia did that, except for [[Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments|Wiki Loves Monuments]]. This is especially true about linking to a purely commercial website, such as Facebook; there are plenty of people who would consider it {{w|Wikipedia: Advertisements|advertisement}} or an indirect violation of the {{w|Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view}} principle. I am aware that small or just developing Wikipedias tend to have a different view on these matters (as in the saying: ''"Where you stand depends on where you sit"''), but that's how it is; and besides, having a link to Facebook on ''every'' page on the Minangkabau Wikipedia does seem a little bit too much, doesn't it?

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When it comes to the logo, I first noticed it when another user [//meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cbrown1023/Logos&diff=next&oldid=5326077 edited the coordination page on Meta]. I had also noticed that you seemed to be using the very same translation of ''Wikipedia'' and the same phrase in the tagline (''Ensiklopedia Bebas'') as the {{w|Indonesian Wikipedia}}; [//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/f/f2/20130324120235!Wikipedia-logo-v2-min.svg your logo], however, used {{w|italic type}} (or, in fact, {{w|oblique type}}) in the tagline, which is only allowed in logos that are written in the Cyrillic script (see [[:wmf:Wikimedia_official_marks/Word_mark_creation#Tagline|the word mark creation guideline]]). Since the existing [[:File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-id.svg|Indonesian Wikipedia logo]] is fully compliant with that guideline, I decided to upload it over your version.

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I am not aware of any political reasons that would make me impose the Indonesian language over anyone; on the contrary, I am happy to see all those (relatively) small Wikipedias thriving, and will be keeping my fingers crossed for your success. I hope that the above explains why I removed the link to Facebook from your SiteNotice and why I changed your logo; and if there is anything that I can help you with, please do not hesitate to ask. Tarimo Kasih! [[user:odder|odder]] ([[user talk:odder|talk]]) 10:16, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

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