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::::Well, I'm glad to hear that OTRS isn't perfect, either. ;) But (as an outsider), all in all, I don't see any real problems with OTRS. OTRS on Commons works just as intended, as far as I can see. What doesn't work is everything else. My point was that OTRS has strict rules on copyright/personality rights questions, as it should, while Commons' rules about copyright/personality rights can be gamed without any effort at all. If that were the only issue, we mere users could play whack-a-mole with those that upload questionable content with even more questionable sourcing, but when users, admins and bureaucrats vote to keep such images in deletion requests (as some did in my examples above), then I honestly don't know what else to do. So, in short: Shouldn't Commons operate on the principle of "If an uploaded file has obviously no chance of ever surviving OTRS, it should be deleted."?

::::Well, I'm glad to hear that OTRS isn't perfect, either. ;) But (as an outsider), all in all, I don't see any real problems with OTRS. OTRS on Commons works just as intended, as far as I can see. What doesn't work is everything else. My point was that OTRS has strict rules on copyright/personality rights questions, as it should, while Commons' rules about copyright/personality rights can be gamed without any effort at all. If that were the only issue, we mere users could play whack-a-mole with those that upload questionable content with even more questionable sourcing, but when users, admins and bureaucrats vote to keep such images in deletion requests (as some did in my examples above), then I honestly don't know what else to do. So, in short: Shouldn't Commons operate on the principle of "If an uploaded file has obviously no chance of ever surviving OTRS, it should be deleted."?

::::And thank you for responding and the offer to help out with OTRS myself. I thought about it previously, but a) I would not dare to touch anything copyright related, and I remain in awe that you guys do! And b) I rather work on raising Commons' low/nonexisting standards on personality rights for now, as futile as it seems to be at times. --[[User:Conti|Conti]]|[[User talk:Conti|✉]] 17:57, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

::::And thank you for responding and the offer to help out with OTRS myself. I thought about it previously, but a) I would not dare to touch anything copyright related, and I remain in awe that you guys do! And b) I rather work on raising Commons' low/nonexisting standards on personality rights for now, as futile as it seems to be at times. --[[User:Conti|Conti]]|[[User talk:Conti|✉]] 17:57, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Why these photos and this category [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:HJ_Mitchell] are necessary to the project? HJ Mitchell - who is such? Vanity young man? [[User:Tatesic|Tatesic]] ([[User talk:Tatesic|talk]]) 14:47, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

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