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Talk:BSicon/Renaming

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::::Axpde, this is '''not''' about any alternative proposal, nor even about yours in itself. It is about how you set off to do things about which there is no consensus about and even sometimes against the consensus. The documentation you list (of which only wp:de and wp:en are original and reflect a consensus, the rest is just half assed translations, now mostly abandoned and obsolete) is old news and '''as you know very well''' what has been parroted ''ad nauseam'' is that "q" should be used only for icons with rotational symmetry at 90°, which is '''not''' the case of ABZs. This rationale you present now goes against what Useddenim and you (and others) ever said about "q": Change your opinions if you want to, but don’t try to say this follows from established practice. -- [[User:Tuvalkin|Tuválkin]] [[User talk:Tuvalkin|✉]] 12:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

::::Axpde, this is '''not''' about any alternative proposal, nor even about yours in itself. It is about how you set off to do things about which there is no consensus about and even sometimes against the consensus. The documentation you list (of which only wp:de and wp:en are original and reflect a consensus, the rest is just half assed translations, now mostly abandoned and obsolete) is old news and '''as you know very well''' what has been parroted ''ad nauseam'' is that "q" should be used only for icons with rotational symmetry at 90°, which is '''not''' the case of ABZs. This rationale you present now goes against what Useddenim and you (and others) ever said about "q": Change your opinions if you want to, but don’t try to say this follows from established practice. -- [[User:Tuvalkin|Tuválkin]] [[User talk:Tuvalkin|✉]] 12:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

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::::: Tuválkin, maybe you are too new to remember, so I gonna tell you about "q"-suffix. Back in 2007 I introduced it on :de:wp: to indicate tracks running across while someone else introduced an "H"-prefix on :en:wp: for the same use. Obviously it arose a long and widely participated discussion about which one suits better and finally the "q"-suffix was regarded more logical (esp. when changing the "-ELEV"-suffix to the "h"-prefix). And since this day the "q"-suffix indicates a ''track running across''. Just it, nothing less and nothing more. Esp. no implicit order to turn an icon by 90° in whatever direction to get the result!

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::::: To name it exactly: ''Prefixes'' always describe the state (u,e,x,m,f), the form (b,c,d,v) or the kind (h,t) of an icon, ''suffixes'' always describe the direction (a,e,g,q,l,r,1,2,3,4) or the level (o,u) of the track!

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::::: So if you and Useddenim decided to find another meaning for the "q"-suffix, it's not my problem. I created hundreds of BSicons following this old consense that has been written down on several pages on different projects. And to parrot myself ''your'' use of the "q"-suffix has never been documentated anywhere! [[User:Axpde|'''a'''×'''p'''_de]][[User Talk:Axpde|^Hello!]] 11:02, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

::The logic in Circeus's proposal is like that (at least that's how I understood it, and it was more straightforward to me than other versions):

::The logic in Circeus's proposal is like that (at least that's how I understood it, and it was more straightforward to me than other versions):

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