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Talk:BSicon/Renaming

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:::{{bsq|STR|alt=STRg}}, {{bsq|ABZrf|alt=STRgr}}, {{bsq|ABZgl+xr|alt=STRgl+xr}} etc.

:::{{bsq|STR|alt=STRg}}, {{bsq|ABZrf|alt=STRgr}}, {{bsq|ABZgl+xr|alt=STRgl+xr}} etc.

:::That would be really simple ''and'' algorithmic (a vital point indeed that we nearly lack). However, I'm not yet clear on whether all "+"'s should (could) be grouped together, as well as "x"'s. (Also, in this case I would've switched the semantics of "l" and "r" to mean left and right side of the screen, so that we completely get rid of "directions" and practise WYSIWYG.) [[User:YLSS|YLSS]] ([[User talk:YLSS|talk]]) 12:25, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

:::That would be really simple ''and'' algorithmic (a vital point indeed that we nearly lack). However, I'm not yet clear on whether all "+"'s should (could) be grouped together, as well as "x"'s. (Also, in this case I would've switched the semantics of "l" and "r" to mean left and right side of the screen, so that we completely get rid of "directions" and practise WYSIWYG.) [[User:YLSS|YLSS]] ([[User talk:YLSS|talk]]) 12:25, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

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:Some points:

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:#YLSS's characterization of my scheme is entirely accurate. It basically means icons are rotated 90° counterclockwise by adding -q. That is {{bsq|ABZql}} becomes {{bsq|ABZql|alt=ABZq+l}} because it's a rotated {{bsq|ABZrg|alt=ABZ+l}} (that the -lg/rg/rf/lf suffixes are still around with not even redirects is another kettle of fish, though)

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:#IIRC (it goes way back now), me and Tuvalkin mostly introduced -g (and -f) as a way to deal with the three way icons by introducing a WYE root, currently used mostly for a couple diagonal icons like {{bsq|WYE1+rf}}.

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:#Whatever happens of -g for "through line", it—or it's replacement, since a way is needed to tell apart things {{bsq|ABZgl+lr}} and {{bsq|ABZl+lr}} (my proposal was _ for icons with the missing through line)—it should be used as sparingly as possible.

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:#Although I do like the idea of a "modular" system, I think the current one does a relative good job of that by basically "presuming" the -g icons (i.e. the through line is stated in the root, not the suffix). Although the system does have the advantage of "solving" the _LEGENDE issue along the line by turning {{bsq|BHF legende}} and {{bsq|BHF}} into {{bsq|BHF legende|alt=BHF}} and {{bsq|BHF|alt=BHFg}}, I suspect such a reworking of the system might be beyond our hands at this point (not to mention the issues of likely opposition on the projects).

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:[[User:Circeus|Circeus]] ([[User talk:Circeus|talk]]) 06:18, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

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