Talk:BSicon/Categorization

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:::Accusing someone of something he didn't do is not very civil, you know. I have checked my contibs and found only a single redirect created by me. About categorization - again, I didn't start it. There were two cats, [[:Category:Icons for railway descriptions/set green|set green]] (with subcats) and [[:Category:Icons for footpath descriptions|footpath descriptions]]; both contained some unique files and both missed some relevant files. Including ''existing'' redirects instead of originals was a way to show other users that one doesn't need to constantly switch between "fXXX" and "YYY green" when creating a template, but just stick to a single pattern. In contrast, after your recent edits (adding all FORDs, WBANKs etc. to set green) the two categories are now nearly duplicate. Maybe then it would be easier to delete [[:Category:Icons for footpath descriptions|footpath descriptions]] and promote set green to the root category, like [[:Category:Icons for railway descriptions/set blue|set blue]]?
 
:::Accusing someone of something he didn't do is not very civil, you know. I have checked my contibs and found only a single redirect created by me. About categorization - again, I didn't start it. There were two cats, [[:Category:Icons for railway descriptions/set green|set green]] (with subcats) and [[:Category:Icons for footpath descriptions|footpath descriptions]]; both contained some unique files and both missed some relevant files. Including ''existing'' redirects instead of originals was a way to show other users that one doesn't need to constantly switch between "fXXX" and "YYY green" when creating a template, but just stick to a single pattern. In contrast, after your recent edits (adding all FORDs, WBANKs etc. to set green) the two categories are now nearly duplicate. Maybe then it would be easier to delete [[:Category:Icons for footpath descriptions|footpath descriptions]] and promote set green to the root category, like [[:Category:Icons for railway descriptions/set blue|set blue]]?
 
:::That aside, I support switching to "fXXX" pattern to match "uXXX" - in the end, it is 5 characters shorter :). Ex's should become "uexXXX", right? [[User:YLSS|YLSS]] ([[User talk:YLSS|talk]]) 15:33, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 
:::That aside, I support switching to "fXXX" pattern to match "uXXX" - in the end, it is 5 characters shorter :). Ex's should become "uexXXX", right? [[User:YLSS|YLSS]] ([[User talk:YLSS|talk]]) 15:33, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 
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== Axpde's single-tree fetish ==
 
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Axpde [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Icons_for_railway_descriptions/set_blue/legende&curid=24930739&diff=93451738&oldid=91731185 wrote] this warning as an HTML comment in a BSicon category: «just *one* category!». Didn’t say why — he never does: Just says that there are many BSicons. Well, there are many more [[:Category:Trams|photos of trams]], ''e.g.'' and they seem to fare well with multiple categorization. Indeed the fact that there are many “things” makes it necessary to be able to multi-cluster separately those things along independent sets of related criteria. (''E.g.'' trams by color, size, date, manufactor, system, motive power, etc.) We all know and agree with that basic fact about Commons categorization, except apparently Axpde.
 
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But unlike his naming shanneningans, which has to do more with form than with substance and which piss off other users more through the process (ignoring everybody else and trampling consensus and debate, only explaining his ideas when everybody else is already up in arms) then by result, his categorization shanneningans are simpler to document and they violate a Commons rule simpler to configure than mere politeness and good faith.
 
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He firmly believes that BSicons should be categorized within a single cladogram structure, and he goes on (and had been on for years as most of the above suggests) deleting all instances of cross categorization attempted by other users, both in categories and in individual icons. This renders category galleries useless (we never know if a missing subcat or supercat is indeed non-existent or just forced by him to show up '''only''' at a different juncture) and undoes a considerable body of work which would be, anywhere else in Commons, a valuable navigation tool.
 
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Since Axpde is, apparently and finally, in a explanation mood, lets hear here why exactly he thinks that BSicon categorization should follow a different standard than all other medias in Commons. Just for the record. (Please don’t waste time hard deleting this section — there are other admins with the same tool, and others yet with more powerful tools. And they may be even watching here.)
 
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-- [[User:Tuvalkin|Tuválkin]] [[User talk:Tuvalkin|✉]] 16:26, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

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