Commons:Village pump/Copyright

‎Israeli Air Force logos: A-4 Skyhawk in logo -- only flown after 1978
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The question is, given that each of the four squadrons were formed (and hence likely the logos) before 1962, is it correct to suggest the above four files are now public domain and should be licensed as [[:Template:PD-IsraelGov|PD-IsraelGov]]? – [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 22:40, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 
The question is, given that each of the four squadrons were formed (and hence likely the logos) before 1962, is it correct to suggest the above four files are now public domain and should be licensed as [[:Template:PD-IsraelGov|PD-IsraelGov]]? – [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 22:40, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 

 

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:All of my detailed comments as to why these files (as well as [[:en:File:The_Goring_Ram_Squadron.gif|The Goring Ram Squadron.gif]] which I created) are correctly licensed as [[:Template:Non-free symbol|"Non-free symbol"]] (non-free fair use) and not [[:Template:PD-IsraelGov|"PD-IsraelGov"]] can be found in the earlier discussion [[:en:Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Photography_workshop#Goring_Ram_Squadron|'''here''']] in which I basically point out that the [http://www.iaf.org.il/Templates/BottomBar/BottomBar.aspx?lang=EN&lobbyID=74&folderID=76 License Agreement] on the Israeli Air Force website from which these images all come states: "According to copyright laws, including the Israeli court as well as international treaties, the copyright of IAF publications, including all information published in this service (i.e., the web site) belong to the Department of Security and Israeli Defense Force. These copyrights ''also apply'' to text, ''images, illustrations,'' maps, sound samples, video or audio bits, ''graphics'', "Flash" applets and software applications ("The protected material"). All rights reserved to the state of Israel. Department of Security ©2003". As the copyright notice specifically includes "images", "illustrations", and "graphics" that would indicate that these logos are under copyright and only eligible for use on WP as a non-free "fair use" illustrations. As [[:File:Goring Ram A-4 Hatzerim 201206.jpg|Goring Ram A-4 Hatzerim 201206.jpg]] also is of one of these copyright protected designs the same licensing restriction should apply to that image as well. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 23:33, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
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:All of my detailed comments as to why these files (as well as [[:en:File:The_Goring_Ram_Squadron.gif|The Goring Ram Squadron.gif]] which I created) are correctly licensed as [[:Template:Non-free symbol|"Non-free symbol"]] (non-free fair use) and not [[:Template:PD-IsraelGov|"PD-IsraelGov"]] can be found in the earlier discussion [[:en:Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Photography_workshop#Goring_Ram_Squadron|'''here''']] in which I basically point out that the [http://www.iaf.org.il/Templates/BottomBar/BottomBar.aspx?lang=EN&lobbyID=74&folderID=76 License Agreement] on the Israeli Air Force website from which these images all come states: "According to copyright laws, including the Israeli court as well as international treaties, the copyright of IAF publications, including all information published in this service (i.e., the web site) belong to the Department of Security and Israeli Defense Force. These copyrights ''also apply'' to text, ''images, illustrations,'' maps, sound samples, video or audio bits, ''graphics'', "Flash" applets and software applications ("The protected material"). All rights reserved to the state of Israel. Department of Security ©2003". As the copyright notice specifically includes "images", "illustrations", and "graphics" that would indicate that these logos are under copyright and only eligible for use on WP as a non-free "fair use" illustrations. As [[:File:Goring Ram A-4 Hatzerim 201206.jpg|Goring Ram A-4 Hatzerim 201206.jpg]] also is of one of these copyright protected designs the same licensing restriction should apply to that image as well. It is also unlikely that this particular logo was "created before 1962" as it clearly depicts a swept wing [[A-4 Skyhawk]], an airplane that this unit never operated until it was reactivated 1978. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 23:33, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

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