Commons:Village pump/Copyright

‎Another exotic license: unclear what was granted to FSA; to Andy Dingley: Which way?
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::I agree it's not a PD license -- it does require attribution. I would presume they would make the conditions clear to anyone who wanted to donate photos. A good many of them are probably PD-FLGov before they get there but probably not all of them are, so PD-FLGov should only be an additional tag if we know the author is from one of the Florida departments which is not allowed to keep the copyright. But I don't see a serious issue in regards to this being a valid tag; I don't see why we can't take their permission on its face. [[User:Clindberg|Carl Lindberg]] ([[User talk:Clindberg|talk]]) 11:31, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 
::I agree it's not a PD license -- it does require attribution. I would presume they would make the conditions clear to anyone who wanted to donate photos. A good many of them are probably PD-FLGov before they get there but probably not all of them are, so PD-FLGov should only be an additional tag if we know the author is from one of the Florida departments which is not allowed to keep the copyright. But I don't see a serious issue in regards to this being a valid tag; I don't see why we can't take their permission on its face. [[User:Clindberg|Carl Lindberg]] ([[User talk:Clindberg|talk]]) 11:31, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:::It's not clear to me that they give us "their permission" though — they don't even say explicitly that following FSA's own requirements for a specific copy gets you the kind of license from the copyright holder that you'd get if the State of Florida was the originator. In fact, they seem to go to some effort to dodge the question at [http://www.floridamemory.com/photographiccollection/disclaimer.php Disclaimer and Copyright Information], saying:
 
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:::* "Some of the images may be protected by copyright."
 
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:::* "Florida is not responsible or liable for any claim, loss, or damage arising from the use of these images"
 
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:::* "The use of photographs and other materials in the custody of the State Archives of Florida is governed by state law and, in some cases, by the terms of the donation agreement under which the Archives acquired the images."
 
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:::* "Please contact the Archives if you have any questions regarding the credit and use of any material presented on this Web site."
 
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:::It sounds more like someone thought they'd dive into the Florida Statutes and, from that, make the leap to assuming that the copyright terms of the donation arrangements to the FSA are what we wish they were, regardless of the FSA web page saying it's not necessarily so. --[[User:Closeapple|Closeapple]] ([[User talk:Closeapple|talk]]) 12:31, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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::Andy Dingley: What is it that comes up once a year? I can't tell which way you meant it, or which way would annoy [[COM:GLAM|GLAM]]s more: Donating a bunch of copies to Commons and having a bunch of it deleted for no-proof-of-license problems, or having a bunch of the institution's holdings imported to Commons under a "free license" and then catching Hell from donors who didn't intend or agree for the archive to grant unlimited-distribution perpetual reproduction licenses. (Well, OK, maybe both. And that's just counting the institutions who have a good grasp of what their licenses and rights are.) --[[User:Closeapple|Closeapple]] ([[User talk:Closeapple|talk]]) 12:31, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 

 

 
== A copyright concern? ==
 
== A copyright concern? ==

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