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My question concerns the late [[:en:Frank Thornton|Frank Thornton]], for whom I'm seeking a free-use photo. According to [http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p10_duration UK copyright law] a film/cinematographic work that's over 50 years old falls into the public domain. Thronton's filmography dates back before 1963, including with the film ''Battle of the V-1'' from 1958. Can we know for sure that the movie or the 1954 film ''Radio Cab Murder'' (also made in the UK) is in the public domain? [[User:Lpdrew|Lpdrew]] ([[User talk:Lpdrew|talk]]) 19:16, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

My question concerns the late [[:en:Frank Thornton|Frank Thornton]], for whom I'm seeking a free-use photo. According to [http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p10_duration UK copyright law] a film/cinematographic work that's over 50 years old falls into the public domain. Thronton's filmography dates back before 1963, including with the film ''Battle of the V-1'' from 1958. Can we know for sure that the movie or the 1954 film ''Radio Cab Murder'' (also made in the UK) is in the public domain? [[User:Lpdrew|Lpdrew]] ([[User talk:Lpdrew|talk]]) 19:16, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

:The webpage you linked ("fact sheet P-10: Copyright Duration") is not about the UK law, it is about the Berne convention. It does hint in the right direction by adding this example : "''For example, in the UK most work is protected for the life of the author plus 70 years.''" That website also has a webpage about the UK law : "[http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p01_uk_copyright_law Fact sheet P-01: UK Copyright Law]", with a paragraph "6. Duration of copyright", subparagraph "iii. Films": "''70 years from the end of the calendar year in which the last principal director, author or composer dies.''". -- [[User:Asclepias|Asclepias]] ([[User talk:Asclepias|talk]]) 19:38, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

:The webpage you linked ("fact sheet P-10: Copyright Duration") is not about the UK law, it is about the Berne convention. It does hint in the right direction by adding this example : "''For example, in the UK most work is protected for the life of the author plus 70 years.''" That website also has a webpage about the UK law : "[http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p01_uk_copyright_law Fact sheet P-01: UK Copyright Law]", with a paragraph "6. Duration of copyright", subparagraph "iii. Films": "''70 years from the end of the calendar year in which the last principal director, author or composer dies.''". -- [[User:Asclepias|Asclepias]] ([[User talk:Asclepias|talk]]) 19:38, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

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::Yes, the Berne convention linked by Lpdrew sets a minimal protection standard which (not only) UK copyright law exceeds by far. The director of [[:en:Battle of the V-1|Battle of the V-1]] and [[:en:Radio Cab Murder|Radio Cab Murder]], Vernon Sewell, died in 2001, so these films are '''not''' in the public domain but protected until '''at least the year 2071''' (protection term might be even longer if an author or composer died later or is still alive). [[User:Gestumblindi|Gestumblindi]] ([[User talk:Gestumblindi|talk]]) 19:47, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

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