Commons:Village pump

‎Signature bot on Commons: move this down again
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:As I said on the other page, in traditional European heraldry, there's not necessarily only "one correct picture" of a coat of arms -- many different artistic renderings based on the authoritative textual [[:en:blazon|blazon]] may all be acceptable. In any case, there is a [[Commons:Deletion requests/Fictional Papal Arms‎|poorly-timed and poorly-supported deletion nomination]] which complicates clean-up until it's resolved... [[User:AnonMoos|AnonMoos]] ([[User talk:AnonMoos|talk]]) 06:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:As I said on the other page, in traditional European heraldry, there's not necessarily only "one correct picture" of a coat of arms -- many different artistic renderings based on the authoritative textual [[:en:blazon|blazon]] may all be acceptable. In any case, there is a [[Commons:Deletion requests/Fictional Papal Arms‎|poorly-timed and poorly-supported deletion nomination]] which complicates clean-up until it's resolved... [[User:AnonMoos|AnonMoos]] ([[User talk:AnonMoos|talk]]) 06:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
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== Signature bot on Commons ==
 
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Hi, I propose we use a signature bot on Commons to sign unsigned posts and notify users who repeatedly post on talk pages without a signature. On the English Wikipedia, this is done by [[w:User:SineBot]]. That bot's source code is not public, but I think this would be helpful rather than manually adding {{tl|unsigned}}. Thoughts? [[User:Mono|'''Mono''']] 02:56, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:I wonder why it's never been implemented here. Barring a good reason not to do so, I think it's a fine idea. – [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 03:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:{{s}}. --[[User:Túrelio|Túrelio]] ([[User talk:Túrelio|talk]]) 07:22, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:{{s}} §§[[User:Dharmadhyaksha|Dharmadhyaksha]]§§ {[[User talk:Dharmadhyaksha|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Dharmadhyaksha|C]]} 11:00, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:{{s}} provided someone is willing to procure and administer such a bot. —[[User:Psychonaut|Psychonaut]] ([[User talk:Psychonaut|talk]]) 11:46, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:{{Support}}. Sounds like a good idea. — [[User:Smuconlaw|SMUconlaw]] ([[User talk:Smuconlaw|talk]]) 12:18, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:{{support}}. — '''''[[User:Ralgis|Ralgis]] [[User talk:Ralgis|[mantis Religiosa]]]''''' — 14:34, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:{{comment}} It should be set up with a reasonable delay to allow those who forgot to sign time to look over their posts and correct, otherwise it gets annoying. [[User:Dankarl|Dankarl]] ([[User talk:Dankarl|talk]]) 02:17, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:{{support}} and according to [[Commons talk:Counter Vandalism Unit]] other users support this as well. -- ''[[User:Rillke|Rillke]]''^{[[User talk:Rillke|(q?)]]} 18:48, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:+1 --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 08:33, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:{{neutral}} I find such things annoying, but I do understand that the level of my annoyance is significantly less than annoyance of those who want it, but don't have it here. [[User:Sinnamon|Sinnamon]] ([[User talk:Sinnamon|talk]]) 09:50, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:{{Strong oppose}} I'm strongly opposed to the use of SineBot while it remains non-Free. However, if the source code was released, preferably under a GPL-compatible license, then I'd be ok with it. I hope Slakr kindly releases the source code. —[[User:JamesHaigh|James Haigh]] ([[User talk:JamesHaigh|talk]]) 2013-03-21T03:39:17[[w:RFC 3339|Z]]
 
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::Why does it matter? -[[User:Fastily|FASTILY]] [[User talk:Fastily|^(TALK)]] 06:21, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:::I don't see why another project based on the philosophy of openness should become reliant on a proprietary component. I find it bad enough that Wikipedia seems to rely on it. I only found out that SineBot wasn't open about a week ago, when I went looking for the code to see if I could track down and fix a bug, to then offer a patch. Without the code, all bug fixes are down to Slakr—not even Wikipedia admins can fix or change SineBot. —[[User:JamesHaigh|James Haigh]] ([[User talk:JamesHaigh|talk]]) 2013-03-21T08:18:17[[w:RFC 3339|Z]]
 
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::: Because we can't make fixes? Because we can't port it to a new project? Because it could break or the owner could shut it off without any notice, and there's nothing anyone could do about it?--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes|talk]]) 09:34, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:::: Luxo could shut down all his tools and I am sure there is no one who will run his tools despite they are open source, useful and used. Looks like the ivony tower. -- ''[[User:Rillke|Rillke]]''^{[[User talk:Rillke|(q?)]]} 17:47, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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::::: I would feel weird if someone else ran [[User:PALZ9000|Palz]] instead of me, and although I could run sinebot, I really don't want to. It's like the running it and writing it are connected (Z wrote palz, but I did his pages, and tinker with his code). The person who wants to run the bot might like to write it, and even if you have the code, it's still a task to find a willing operator. Need to find an operator. [[User:Penyulap|'''Penyulap''']][[User talk:Penyulap| ☏]] 18:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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=== Building the bot ===
 
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The ENWP bot is run by one user and the source code is not public. In general, I have been unable to contact the user. I think it's safe to say that their chance of responding is unlikely, so we should consider building our own. [[User:Mono|'''Mono''']] 02:55, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:Not public! That's strange. I thought everything on Wikipedias should be publicly available, just like articles. Is this not applicable for codes? Would we require their permission to use? Can some admin get in and bring the code here? §§[[User:Dharmadhyaksha|Dharmadhyaksha]]§§ {[[User talk:Dharmadhyaksha|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Dharmadhyaksha|C]]} 04:56, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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::Nope, not bot programs, which are run out of private servers or on wmlabs. -[[User:Fastily|FASTILY]] [[User talk:Fastily|^(TALK)]] 05:37, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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In de.wikipedia, there is [[:de:Benutzer:CopperBot|CopperBot]] that does a similar job ([[:de:Spezial:Beiträge/CopperBot|contribs]], [[:de:Benutzer:CopperBot/config.css|config]]). --[[User:Leyo|Leyo]] 14:28, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:Can someone contact him for the code? I don't speak German? [[User:Mono|'''Mono''']] 16:41, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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::I left a [[:en:User_talk:Slakr#Commons_wants_SineBot|note]] on his talk page. – [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 16:51, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:::I guess Mono meant the other bot. The operator does understand English. --[[User:Leyo|Leyo]] 23:10, 17 March 2013 (UTC) PS. I [[:de:BD:P.Copp#Quellcode CopperBot|asked]] him.
 
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::::Yes, I mean CopperBot. —[[User:Mono|'''Mono''']] 20:29, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:I don't know anything about bots, but I saw this conversation. SineBot took over for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/SineBot HagermanBot], so that might be a starting point as well. Again, no clue about bots, so if this is pointless, sorry 'bout that. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁[[:en:User:Keraunoscopia|gala]][[:User talk:Keraunoscopia|xies]] 08:31, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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=== Actually doing something ===
 
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Has anyone contacted the op of CopperBot on dewiki? —[[User:Mono|'''Mono''']] 19:55, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 
 

 

 
== [[/Proposals#Report a file (feedback) tool|Report a file (feedback) tool]] ==
 
== [[/Proposals#Report a file (feedback) tool|Report a file (feedback) tool]] ==

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