Commons:Village pump

‎Request for help for User:Microtoerisme to express the facts of their donation to Commons, without accusations of spamming
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:::::::I attempted positive and encouraging discussion with Microtoerisme, as they wish to freely share educational content for the public benefit, and have chosen to work with Wikimedia Commons to achieve this. This is not because I am desperate to be everyone's buddy, as many of my critics will willingly attest. I understand the [[Commons:Scope#Aim_of_Wikimedia_Commons|aims of this project]], and anyone who wishes to support that, should be welcomed here. The problem of watermarks is not insurmountable, and if Microtoerisme were to help out, it could be a straight-forward job for a bot to replace the current images with non-watermarked versions, whilst at the same time adding a legally enforceable attribution that fits with Microtoerisme's expectations, the same expectations that they were trying to satisfy using image watermarks which unfortunately got them blocked and repeatedly accused of being a spammer. An unnecessarily adversarial and hostile welcome to this project in my view. Anyway, if this works itself out, perhaps you will let me say "I told you so" a couple of times. {{=)}} Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 21:00, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::::I attempted positive and encouraging discussion with Microtoerisme, as they wish to freely share educational content for the public benefit, and have chosen to work with Wikimedia Commons to achieve this. This is not because I am desperate to be everyone's buddy, as many of my critics will willingly attest. I understand the [[Commons:Scope#Aim_of_Wikimedia_Commons|aims of this project]], and anyone who wishes to support that, should be welcomed here. The problem of watermarks is not insurmountable, and if Microtoerisme were to help out, it could be a straight-forward job for a bot to replace the current images with non-watermarked versions, whilst at the same time adding a legally enforceable attribution that fits with Microtoerisme's expectations, the same expectations that they were trying to satisfy using image watermarks which unfortunately got them blocked and repeatedly accused of being a spammer. An unnecessarily adversarial and hostile welcome to this project in my view. Anyway, if this works itself out, perhaps you will let me say "I told you so" a couple of times. {{=)}} Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 21:00, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 
::::::::The logic escapes me. "Supporters" of Microtoerisme's upload of 12000 pictures with watermarks will accept the 12000 pictures of this company with the watermarks added but immediately state that these will somehow (how?) have to be removed before usage because the watermarks are not acceptable. When this company is so keen to upload these pictures when they know that these watermarks will be removed immediately why then even bother to watermark them? --[[User:VanBuren|VanBuren]] ([[User talk:VanBuren|talk]]) 21:40, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 
::::::::The logic escapes me. "Supporters" of Microtoerisme's upload of 12000 pictures with watermarks will accept the 12000 pictures of this company with the watermarks added but immediately state that these will somehow (how?) have to be removed before usage because the watermarks are not acceptable. When this company is so keen to upload these pictures when they know that these watermarks will be removed immediately why then even bother to watermark them? --[[User:VanBuren|VanBuren]] ([[User talk:VanBuren|talk]]) 21:40, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:::::::::I've been e-mailing with Microtoerisme and he is willing to upload watermark free images. Especially since I tried to craft [[User:Microtoerisme/license|a custom license]]. His technical skills however, are limited. If you check his contributions you will see that he uploaded all of his photographs so far using the UploadWizard. He suggested starting all over again, uploading 50 pictures at a time, but that's not ideal either. What I'm lamenting is how the whole discussion leaded to him being blocked so quickly. He isn't unreasonable or unaproachable. It seems that one statement by him has been misinterpreted, leading some people to still not move forward.--[[User:1Veertje|Vera]] ([[User talk:1Veertje|talk]]) 22:02, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 

 

 
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