Commons:Village pump
Anti-sign cleanup
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::It might be admirable in some cases to have a zeal to apply the Commons:Scope policy, but as a matter of working practice here on Commons, users have generally been allowed to compose icons to express personal opinions on their user pages, as long as these don't get out of hand, and aren't blatantly hatemongering or defamatory, etc. Unfortunately, your nominations beyond [[Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by user Straightlife|Uploads by user Straightlife]] seemed to be rather capricious and arbitrary (singling out a few images among many hundreds based on no clearly-ascertainable criteria), and on [[Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by user Straightlife|Uploads by user Straightlife]], [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:No oil.JPG|File:No oil.JPG]], and [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:Screenshot-large-1-.jpg|File:Screenshot-large-1-.jpg]] you seemed to intentionally avoid mentioning what others would consider to be the main issues involved. Changing current ''de facto'' practices won't really be accomplished by launching deletion nominations against a few individual images out of hundreds (and some of those nominations seeming to be a little off-target). [[User:AnonMoos|AnonMoos]] ([[User talk:AnonMoos|talk]]) 22:52, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
::It might be admirable in some cases to have a zeal to apply the Commons:Scope policy, but as a matter of working practice here on Commons, users have generally been allowed to compose icons to express personal opinions on their user pages, as long as these don't get out of hand, and aren't blatantly hatemongering or defamatory, etc. Unfortunately, your nominations beyond [[Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by user Straightlife|Uploads by user Straightlife]] seemed to be rather capricious and arbitrary (singling out a few images among many hundreds based on no clearly-ascertainable criteria), and on [[Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by user Straightlife|Uploads by user Straightlife]], [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:No oil.JPG|File:No oil.JPG]], and [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:Screenshot-large-1-.jpg|File:Screenshot-large-1-.jpg]] you seemed to intentionally avoid mentioning what others would consider to be the main issues involved. Changing current ''de facto'' practices won't really be accomplished by launching deletion nominations against a few individual images out of hundreds (and some of those nominations seeming to be a little off-target). [[User:AnonMoos|AnonMoos]] ([[User talk:AnonMoos|talk]]) 22:52, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
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::: I consider your accusations insulting. I cannot read other people's thoughts, otherwise there would be no use for discussions. I wasn't completely aware of the scale of the problem when I started those discussions. If the policy text doesn't reflect the community consensus, it should be changed. Current situation is very likely to cause confusion. --[[User:Ilaiho|ilaiho]] ([[User talk:Ilaiho|talk]]) 08:45, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
[[File:Andriod will win in 2016.jpg|left|150px]]These images at the front of the list are rather cute actually. I can't see anyone having a problem with them. [[Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by user Straightlife]] is as much meat as the matter may have, if any. [[User:Penyulap|'''Penyulap''']][[User talk:Penyulap| ☏]] 23:02, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
[[File:Andriod will win in 2016.jpg|left|150px]]These images at the front of the list are rather cute actually. I can't see anyone having a problem with them. [[Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by user Straightlife]] is as much meat as the matter may have, if any. [[User:Penyulap|'''Penyulap''']][[User talk:Penyulap| ☏]] 23:02, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
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'''Keep all''' They are perfectly decent images. We may not agree with what the images are promoting but that's no reason to delete. They are perfectly within scope and it's possible these images (or derivatives of them) could be used somewhere by someone. As far as "anti-sign cleanup", there are probably things around here that could stand to be cleaned up a whole lot more and be a whole less disruptive than picking on a bunch of message-charged images you don't really like. – [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 06:11, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
'''Keep all''' They are perfectly decent images. We may not agree with what the images are promoting but that's no reason to delete. They are perfectly within scope and it's possible these images (or derivatives of them) could be used somewhere by someone. As far as "anti-sign cleanup", there are probably things around here that could stand to be cleaned up a whole lot more and be a whole less disruptive than picking on a bunch of message-charged images you don't really like. – [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 06:11, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
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: The policy specifically warns against those ''somewhere by someone'' arguments: ''Not all images for example are realistically useful for an educational purpose, and an image does not magically become useful by arguing that “it could be used to illustrate a Wikipedia article on X”, where X happens to be the subject of the file''. There should not be such sentences in the policy if they don't actually mean that. --[[User:Ilaiho|ilaiho]] ([[User talk:Ilaiho|talk]]) 08:45, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
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