Commons:Village pump
Request for help for User:Microtoerisme to express the facts of their donation to Commons, without accusations of spamming
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Well, congrats guys, he left. He is looking for a community where his pictures are welcomed. --[[User:1Veertje|Vera]] ([[User talk:1Veertje|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Well, congrats guys, he left. He is looking for a community where his pictures are welcomed. --[[User:1Veertje|Vera]] ([[User talk:1Veertje|talk]]) 16:19, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
:If you are saying here that Microtoerisme is not interested anymore in uploading and wikipedia is thus missing out on many good pictures, then why the "congrats"? Meant as a cynical remark to all those that were involved in discussions? Uncalled for. Rather blame the unclear acceptance policy of Commons with reference to advertising in watermarks or blame the mistake not addressing the watermark issue right from the start, blame lots of other issues but not those who expressed their honest opinion on this issue. --[[User:VanBuren|VanBuren]] ([[User talk:VanBuren|talk]]) 21:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
:If you are saying here that Microtoerisme is not interested anymore in uploading and wikipedia is thus missing out on many good pictures, then why the "congrats"? Meant as a cynical remark to all those that were involved in discussions? Uncalled for. Rather blame the unclear acceptance policy of Commons with reference to advertising in watermarks or blame the mistake not addressing the watermark issue right from the start, blame lots of other issues but not those who expressed their honest opinion on this issue. --[[User:VanBuren|VanBuren]] ([[User talk:VanBuren|talk]]) 21:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
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::I understood the remark, and it was obvious sarcasm in a way. The frustration is that it is perfectly perfectly obvious what the result of the hounding of editors in the most irrational manner will be. It is perfectly obvious to some what an irrational dislike of great images with trivial watermarks does for the project. I personally have only seen ONE watermark which I thought was too time-consuming to remove, I challenge anyone to find another.
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::There is a 'scientific thinking' position that is this: Clear, rational evidence and reasoning all points towards watermarked images being good for the project and welcome. Once those clear rational arguments are subtracted from people's dislike of the watermarks, the only thing left is a desire to hound people. To simply play cops and robbers for nothing but the sake of playing cops and robbers. Blocking people simply because you can, not because it in any way relates to anything that is good or bad for the project. Following misinterpretations of non-existent or muddled rubbish because it gives someone a trip to block someone else. So the phrase 'congrads' makes perfect sense as an alternative to 'I told you so' or 'is that what you call a good result ?'.
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::I understand this viewpoint, and I understand your viewpoint as well. You say it's the fault of the rabble that they haven't made up their minds and written it down yet. Makes sense. But how do you shout over the top of people who have no interest whatsoever in the project and an unwavering interest in hitting that adorable block button ? Why on earth would they a) listen or b) give up a reason to hit the button ? That's part of the game, so just like polly who wants a cracker, no matter how many times you ask, you're always going to get the same frikkin response that 'watermarks are no good because watermarks are discouraged ''because'' watermarks are no good ''because'' they are discouraged' ad infinitum. How would you get people to switch on their minds and go one step past repeating the existing muddled crap and say why they are discouraged, rather than parroting 'because it's policy' ? No, I think a short 'well congratulations' is in order here. Give them a barnstar for protecting the project against thousands of high quality images that a bot would have de-watermarked. Phew, what a close call that was, lucky they have gone, watch out for socks eh? gotta play the wack-a-mole game next.
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:Sorry, how's my version of the cynicism, a bit too thick ? [[User:Penyulap|'''Penyulap''']][[User talk:Penyulap| ☏]] 23:30, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
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==Leon, and ThatPeskyCommoner==
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For anyone who know her and may not have heard the news, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ThatPeskyCommoner ThatPeskyCommoner]'s grandson Leon lost his battle to live. [[User:Penyulap|'''Penyulap''']][[User talk:Penyulap| ☏]] 23:30, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
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