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Commons talk:Freedom of panorama

‎Morocco: more
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::Our advice contradicts the law because we're saying that uses have to be ''both'' incidental ''and'' non-commercial, while the law says they have to be ''either'' incidental ''or'' non-commercial. Incidental here meaning "not the main subject of such a reproduction", this might give us much better FOP than our usual de minimis cases (not similar to France at all). -- [[User:Orionist|'''Orionist''']] ★ [[User talk:Orionist|talk]] 04:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

::Our advice contradicts the law because we're saying that uses have to be ''both'' incidental ''and'' non-commercial, while the law says they have to be ''either'' incidental ''or'' non-commercial. Incidental here meaning "not the main subject of such a reproduction", this might give us much better FOP than our usual de minimis cases (not similar to France at all). -- [[User:Orionist|'''Orionist''']] ★ [[User talk:Orionist|talk]] 04:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
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:::As explained by Orionist, if I understand him correctly because I don't practice much English, I agree with him, and believe it's a case of [[en:logical conjunction|logical conjunction]]. Some people around me, asked for their opinions, agree also. It would be different if the text was : '''''unless''' the image of the work is the main subject of such a reproduction, broadcast or communication '''or''' if it is used for commercial purposes''. Here is a synthetic table that summarizes my perception regarding the case of Morocco (but not only, I'm also thinking for example of Mozambique).
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:::As explained by Orionist, if I understand him correctly because I don't practice much English, I agree with him, and believe it's a case of [[en:logical conjunction|logical conjunction]]. Some people around me, asked for their opinions, agree also. Here is a synthetic table that summarizes my perception regarding the case of Morocco (but not only, I'm also thinking for example of Mozambique).

{| class="wikitable alternance centre"

{| class="wikitable alternance centre"

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! scope="col" | Main subject

! scope="col" | Main subject
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! scope="row" | Commercial purposes

! scope="row" | Commercial purposes
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| Not OK
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| {{NotOK}}
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| OK
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| {{OK}}

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! scope="row" | Noncommercial purposes

! scope="row" | Noncommercial purposes
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| OK
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| {{OK}}
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| OK
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| {{OK}}

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--[[User:Frenchinmorocco|Frenchinmorocco]] ([[User talk:Frenchinmorocco|talk]]) 08:19, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
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It would be different if the text was : '''''unless''' the image of the work is the main subject of such a reproduction, broadcast or communication '''or''' if it is used for commercial purposes''.

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{| class="wikitable alternance centre"

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! scope="col" | Main subject

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! scope="col" | Not the main subject

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! scope="row" | Commercial purposes

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| {{NotOK}}

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| {{NotOK}}

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! scope="row" | Noncommercial purposes

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| {{NotOK}}

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| {{OK}}

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--[[User:Frenchinmorocco|Frenchinmorocco]] ([[User talk:Frenchinmorocco|talk]]) 08:28, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

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