Commons talk:Featured picture candidates
Delisting reform
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:*So you mean a D&R is OK even if the scan is different as far as it is of the same image? It sounds OK for me too. What about restorations? [[User:Jkadavoor|J]][[User talk:Jkadavoor|Kadavoor]] [[Special:Contributions/Jkadavoor|J]][[:Category:User:Jkadavoor|e]][[Special:ListFiles/Jkadavoor|e]] 12:33, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
:*So you mean a D&R is OK even if the scan is different as far as it is of the same image? It sounds OK for me too. What about restorations? [[User:Jkadavoor|J]][[User talk:Jkadavoor|Kadavoor]] [[Special:Contributions/Jkadavoor|J]][[:Category:User:Jkadavoor|e]][[Special:ListFiles/Jkadavoor|e]] 12:33, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
::*In the end, if people think they're better, they'll succeed at the D&R, and if not, they won't. Since it's useful to have the best version featured, I'd say they should be fully up to D&R. [[User:Adam Cuerden|Adam Cuerden]] ([[User talk:Adam Cuerden|talk]]) 20:42, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
::*In the end, if people think they're better, they'll succeed at the D&R, and if not, they won't. Since it's useful to have the best version featured, I'd say they should be fully up to D&R. [[User:Adam Cuerden|Adam Cuerden]] ([[User talk:Adam Cuerden|talk]]) 20:42, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
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:::*Agree. [[User:Jkadavoor|J]][[User talk:Jkadavoor|Kadavoor]] [[Special:Contributions/Jkadavoor|J]][[:Category:User:Jkadavoor|e]][[Special:ListFiles/Jkadavoor|e]] 06:00, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
*A "Delist & replace" procedure can be a good way to solve the specific cases mentioned above. A remark however: note that in the recent [[Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Clock Tower - Palace of Westminster, London - September 2006-2.jpg|nomination]] which ended with changing the featured version of Diliff's FP, the nominator wasn't awarethat another version of the file had been previously featured. Same scheme occured a few time ago with another [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Featured_picture_candidates&diff=90988917&oldid=90988524 FPC]. As for me, I noticed those cases trying to use the newly nominated pictures in WP articles. My point is that it could be useful to have a D&R procedure, but an issue is to identify early that another version of the same work is already FP. --[[User:Myrabella|Myrabella]] ([[User talk:Myrabella|talk]]) 15:58, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
*A "Delist & replace" procedure can be a good way to solve the specific cases mentioned above. A remark however: note that in the recent [[Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Clock Tower - Palace of Westminster, London - September 2006-2.jpg|nomination]] which ended with changing the featured version of Diliff's FP, the nominator wasn't awarethat another version of the file had been previously featured. Same scheme occured a few time ago with another [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Featured_picture_candidates&diff=90988917&oldid=90988524 FPC]. As for me, I noticed those cases trying to use the newly nominated pictures in WP articles. My point is that it could be useful to have a D&R procedure, but an issue is to identify early that another version of the same work is already FP. --[[User:Myrabella|Myrabella]] ([[User talk:Myrabella|talk]]) 15:58, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
:*The existing FPs are mentioned as "other versions" in both cases; so they can be considered as the nominator's negligence. Further, the nominators should do some homework; check the COM:Category for any existing FPs and verify that the new nomination is better than if any. [[User:Jkadavoor|J]][[User talk:Jkadavoor|Kadavoor]] [[Special:Contributions/Jkadavoor|J]][[:Category:User:Jkadavoor|e]][[Special:ListFiles/Jkadavoor|e]] 16:44, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
:*The existing FPs are mentioned as "other versions" in both cases; so they can be considered as the nominator's negligence. Further, the nominators should do some homework; check the COM:Category for any existing FPs and verify that the new nomination is better than if any. [[User:Jkadavoor|J]][[User talk:Jkadavoor|Kadavoor]] [[Special:Contributions/Jkadavoor|J]][[:Category:User:Jkadavoor|e]][[Special:ListFiles/Jkadavoor|e]] 16:44, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
::*Agree—and the reviewers should read the file description as far as "Other versions", at least. --[[User:Myrabella|Myrabella]] ([[User talk:Myrabella|talk]]) 16:55, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
::*Agree—and the reviewers should read the file description as far as "Other versions", at least. --[[User:Myrabella|Myrabella]] ([[User talk:Myrabella|talk]]) 16:55, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
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:::*Agree. :) [[User:Jkadavoor|J]][[User talk:Jkadavoor|Kadavoor]] [[Special:Contributions/Jkadavoor|J]][[:Category:User:Jkadavoor|e]][[Special:ListFiles/Jkadavoor|e]] 06:00, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
:Another thing it might be a good idea to be more lenient about D&Rs of is diagrams, particularly for things like SVGs made from PNGs, and revamps which primarily improve appearance as opposed to content. I can see why we'd want to prevent our hard-working diagram creators from being delisted too readily, but... [[User:Adam Cuerden|Adam Cuerden]] ([[User talk:Adam Cuerden|talk]]) 02:50, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
:Another thing it might be a good idea to be more lenient about D&Rs of is diagrams, particularly for things like SVGs made from PNGs, and revamps which primarily improve appearance as opposed to content. I can see why we'd want to prevent our hard-working diagram creators from being delisted too readily, but... [[User:Adam Cuerden|Adam Cuerden]] ([[User talk:Adam Cuerden|talk]]) 02:50, 18 March 2013 (UTC)