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Commons:Requests for comment/scope

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::I would disagree with server space never being a valid argument: The goal isn't really that uploads against policy are be deleted and left stored on the server; the goal is that files that are against guidelines aren't uploaded and stored and taking up space in the first place. --[[User:Closeapple|Closeapple]] ([[User talk:Closeapple|talk]]) 23:27, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

::I would disagree with server space never being a valid argument: The goal isn't really that uploads against policy are be deleted and left stored on the server; the goal is that files that are against guidelines aren't uploaded and stored and taking up space in the first place. --[[User:Closeapple|Closeapple]] ([[User talk:Closeapple|talk]]) 23:27, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

:::Indeed. If space is never freed from the server, that's all the more reason to conspicuously publish, and where necessary preventatively enforce, policies setting out what is and isn't an appropriate upload. —[[User:Psychonaut|Psychonaut]] ([[User talk:Psychonaut|talk]]) 08:49, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

:::Indeed. If space is never freed from the server, that's all the more reason to conspicuously publish, and where necessary preventatively enforce, policies setting out what is and isn't an appropriate upload. —[[User:Psychonaut|Psychonaut]] ([[User talk:Psychonaut|talk]]) 08:49, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
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::::Nice thoughts, but rather meaningless (sorry) with our current upload procedure. Around 20% of new uploads (8,000/day) have problems (missing source, author, license, wrong license) or are plain copyvios. Uploaders are lying in your face about being the creator of stuff they copied from the web. Do you really think any '''BOLD''' warning at upload will change that? The same with out-of-scope uploads.
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:::Nice thoughts, but rather meaningless (sorry) with our current upload procedure. Around 20% of new uploads (8,000/day) have problems (missing source, author, license, wrong license) or are plain copyvios. Uploaders are lying in your face about being the creator of stuff they copied from the web. Do you really think any '''BOLD''' warning at upload will change that? The same with out-of-scope uploads.

:::So, if you want to take server space into account, the upload procedure of Commons needs to be cut in 2 separate steps.

:::So, if you want to take server space into account, the upload procedure of Commons needs to be cut in 2 separate steps.

:::* 1) upload to some pre-Commons server, from which the files are really removed, not just hidden. Images from this server should not be able to be linked into any other project.

:::* 1) upload to some pre-Commons server, from which the files are really removed, not just hidden. Images from this server should not be able to be linked into any other project.

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