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‎Asked for help on WWII-era Nazi pictures by another user
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:::: The template says "In Germany and possibly other countries, certain anonymous works published before July 1, 1995 are copyrighted until 70 years after the death of the author. See Aktuelle Rechtslage in Deutschland, last paragraph." Maybe I'm misunderstanding; it's certainly not at all clear to the English reader.--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes|talk]]) 10:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::: The template says "In Germany and possibly other countries, certain anonymous works published before July 1, 1995 are copyrighted until 70 years after the death of the author. See Aktuelle Rechtslage in Deutschland, last paragraph." Maybe I'm misunderstanding; it's certainly not at all clear to the English reader.--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes|talk]]) 10:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::Ah, thanks. I think this is a misinterpretation as the full text makes it clear that there is only a concern if the anonymous author has identified themselves (thereby becoming non-anonymous). I can imagine this applying for WWII photos that were not associated with a named photographer at the time, but decades later, someone might come forward, or be identified with the work after their deaths. There are wrinkles in this, for example it may be *possible* but not guaranteed that a photograph could be researched an analysed sufficiently to work out who is likely to have taken a previously anonymous photo, it is unclear if Commons should host a photo where such a possibility exists but has yet to happen. I suggest these sorts of wrinkles are raised elsewhere and when needed though, it's a bit of a diversion to the original topic here. Thanks [[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 10:35, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::Ah, thanks. I think this is a misinterpretation as the full text makes it clear that there is only a concern if the anonymous author has identified themselves (thereby becoming non-anonymous). I can imagine this applying for WWII photos that were not associated with a named photographer at the time, but decades later, someone might come forward, or be identified with the work after their deaths. There are wrinkles in this, for example it may be *possible* but not guaranteed that a photograph could be researched an analysed sufficiently to work out who is likely to have taken a previously anonymous photo, it is unclear if Commons should host a photo where such a possibility exists but has yet to happen. I suggest these sorts of wrinkles are raised elsewhere and when needed though, it's a bit of a diversion to the original topic here. Thanks [[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 10:35, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:::::: Okay. It'd be nice for the template to be clarified, though.--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes|talk]]) 01:18, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 

 

 
:::So is this a confirmation of that photos that once belonged to the German Wehrmacht (as from the books I've describen -and without mentioning the photographer)is OK ? [[User:Boeing720|Boeing720]] ([[User talk:Boeing720|talk]]) 03:34, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::So is this a confirmation of that photos that once belonged to the German Wehrmacht (as from the books I've describen -and without mentioning the photographer)is OK ? [[User:Boeing720|Boeing720]] ([[User talk:Boeing720|talk]]) 03:34, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
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:::::(Wehrmacht was the namefor all armedforces, but beside the point). As I understant it the photographers were low lanked officers. Have You ever seen the German film "das Boot", by the way. About a German u-boat (submarine) and it's crew. Onboard is a photographer with officer rank. I guess that the pictures in these books also were f.i. sergeants or leftenants and that they were a part of the Wehrmacht. I cannot find any clues in the books that contradicts this assumption. [[User:Boeing720|Boeing720]] ([[User talk:Boeing720|talk]]) 13:08, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::(Wehrmacht was the namefor all armedforces, but beside the point). As I understant it the photographers were low lanked officers. Have You ever seen the German film "das Boot", by the way. About a German u-boat (submarine) and it's crew. Onboard is a photographer with officer rank. I guess that the pictures in these books also were f.i. sergeants or leftenants and that they were a part of the Wehrmacht. I cannot find any clues in the books that contradicts this assumption. [[User:Boeing720|Boeing720]] ([[User talk:Boeing720|talk]]) 13:08, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 
::::::I've never seen the movie, but I understand that the Nazis had whole units that did nothing except document military activities. The question is whether it meets the Commons policy standard: "Uploads of non-U.S. works are normally allowed only if the work is either in the public domain or covered by a valid free license in both the U.S. and the country of origin of the work." It appears that these are free (public domain) in the US but ''maybe'' not in Germany. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 15:02, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 
::::::I've never seen the movie, but I understand that the Nazis had whole units that did nothing except document military activities. The question is whether it meets the Commons policy standard: "Uploads of non-U.S. works are normally allowed only if the work is either in the public domain or covered by a valid free license in both the U.S. and the country of origin of the work." It appears that these are free (public domain) in the US but ''maybe'' not in Germany. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 15:02, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:::: Sweden would be the country of origin if that's where they were first published.--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes|talk]]) 01:18, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 

 

 
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