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‎Asked for help on WWII-era Nazi pictures by another user: c
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::''Prosfilaes'' "In Germany, that applies even if the photographer is anonymous" - does it? The template you point to, makes it clear that any image or text would no longer be copyright "70 years after the work was made available to the public and the author never disclosed their identity", rather than after the anonymous person's death. I think I'm missing something in the rationale here, and as I have personally uploaded quite a few thousand WWII period photographs, could you point to the right bit of Commons policy or guidelines, or confirm that I am misreading what you intended to say? Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 08:22, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

::''Prosfilaes'' "In Germany, that applies even if the photographer is anonymous" - does it? The template you point to, makes it clear that any image or text would no longer be copyright "70 years after the work was made available to the public and the author never disclosed their identity", rather than after the anonymous person's death. I think I'm missing something in the rationale here, and as I have personally uploaded quite a few thousand WWII period photographs, could you point to the right bit of Commons policy or guidelines, or confirm that I am misreading what you intended to say? Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 08:22, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

:::: The template says "In Germany and possibly other countries, certain anonymous works published before July 1, 1995 are copyrighted until 70 years after the death of the author. See Aktuelle Rechtslage in Deutschland, last paragraph." Maybe I'm misunderstanding; it's certainly not at all clear to the English reader.--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes|talk]]) 10:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

:::: The template says "In Germany and possibly other countries, certain anonymous works published before July 1, 1995 are copyrighted until 70 years after the death of the author. See Aktuelle Rechtslage in Deutschland, last paragraph." Maybe I'm misunderstanding; it's certainly not at all clear to the English reader.--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes|talk]]) 10:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

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:::::Ah, thanks. I think this is a misinterpretation as the full text makes it clear that there is only a concern if the anonymous author has identified themselves (thereby becoming non-anonymous). I can imagine this applying for WWII photos that were not associated with a named photographer at the time, but decades later, someone might come forward, or be identified with the work after their deaths. There are wrinkles in this, for example it may be *possible* but not guaranteed that a photograph could be researched an analysed sufficiently to work out who is likely to have taken a previously anonymous photo, it is unclear if Commons should host a photo where such a possibility exists but has yet to happen. I suggest these sorts of wrinkles are raised elsewhere and when needed though, it's a bit of a diversion to the original topic here. Thanks [[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 10:35, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

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