Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:The Spirit Level Slides

cc-by-3.0 strengthens the original non-cc "license"
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::"We hope you will use them in talks, lectures or discussion groups to help increase people's understanding of the effects of inequality."
 
::"We hope you will use them in talks, lectures or discussion groups to help increase people's understanding of the effects of inequality."
 
This is a license for a particular use, not the general license we require. It also says nothing about commercial use or derivative works. The source site has an explicit copyright notice and I am sure the book from which they are taken does also. The Equality Trust appear to be sophisticated people and Penguin Books certainly understands copyright. If they had intended to give a general license such as CC-BY, they would have done so. We must assume that the restrictions are deliberate..     Jim . . . . [[User:Jameslwoodward|(Jameslwoodward)]] ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]]) 11:23, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 
This is a license for a particular use, not the general license we require. It also says nothing about commercial use or derivative works. The source site has an explicit copyright notice and I am sure the book from which they are taken does also. The Equality Trust appear to be sophisticated people and Penguin Books certainly understands copyright. If they had intended to give a general license such as CC-BY, they would have done so. We must assume that the restrictions are deliberate..     Jim . . . . [[User:Jameslwoodward|(Jameslwoodward)]] ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]]) 11:23, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:::{{Strong oppose}} "This is a license for a particular use...", no it's not they are just ''hoping'' there. "... such as CC-BY, they would have done so ..." CC-BY adds the requirement that "when lying, mention it" --[[User:Pasixxxx|Pasixxxx]] ([[User talk:Pasixxxx|talk]]) 19:40, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 

 

 
{{vd}}: I don't think "we hope that" or "we strongly recommend that" constitute restrictions, however:
 
{{vd}}: I don't think "we hope that" or "we strongly recommend that" constitute restrictions, however:
 
:''The slides (and the graphs contained within them) can be downloaded and used freely without permission''
 
:''The slides (and the graphs contained within them) can be downloaded and used freely without permission''
 
How may the images be "used"? Can you sell them? Modify them? It's not enough. {{tl|Attribution}} does not match the statement on the website, which lacks either details of ''any'' restrictions, or an explicit declaration of PD status --[[User:Moogsi|moogsi]] ([[User talk:Moogsi|blah]]) 17:13, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 
How may the images be "used"? Can you sell them? Modify them? It's not enough. {{tl|Attribution}} does not match the statement on the website, which lacks either details of ''any'' restrictions, or an explicit declaration of PD status --[[User:Moogsi|moogsi]] ([[User talk:Moogsi|blah]]) 17:13, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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::{{Strong oppose}} "Used freely without permission, on condition you acknowledge their source". This implies free to modify them if they are acknowledged, well this could also mean that the modifier can lie by modifying the information (regression data) in the slides. [[w:en:Creative_Commons_license#Attribution|Wikipedia article on cc-by]] says that "Mention if the work is a derivative work or adaptation", so the CC-BY license adds the requirement that "lying needs to be mentioned". The change to {{tl|Attribution}} was a bad idea so let's keep the {{tl|Cc-by-3.0}}, it adds "lying needs to be mentioned" to the "Used freely without permission, on condition you acknowledge their source". And keep the images, don't delete them --[[User:Pasixxxx|Pasixxxx]] ([[User talk:Pasixxxx|talk]]) 19:40, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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:I also note that the deleted item above, [[:File:Capture 14032013 205232.jpg]], contains three Time magazine covers and five other images. While I am reasonably certain that Penguin got a license from Time, Inc. for the use of the covers in the book, it is highly unlikely that Penguin's license from Time includes broader use. This raises the question of whether any of the other material is actually subject to third party copyrights that The Equality Trust has not bothered to consider. .     Jim . . . . [[User:Jameslwoodward|(Jameslwoodward)]] ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]]) 21:35, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:I also note that the deleted item above, [[:File:Capture 14032013 205232.jpg]], contains three Time magazine covers and five other images. While I am reasonably certain that Penguin got a license from Time, Inc. for the use of the covers in the book, it is highly unlikely that Penguin's license from Time includes broader use. This raises the question of whether any of the other material is actually subject to third party copyrights that The Equality Trust has not bothered to consider. .     Jim . . . . [[User:Jameslwoodward|(Jameslwoodward)]] ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]]) 21:35, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

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