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Commons:Deletion requests/File:The Last of Hm Submarine Shark. June 1940, South-east of Stavanger, Norway. HMS Shark, Powerless To Dive Or Steer, Just Before She Was Sunk by Her Own Crew To Prevent Her Capture by the Germans. the Pictures Were Taken F A30496.jpg

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These photos were taken by 'a German seaman', to quote the image description: ''"the Pictures Were Taken From a German Trawler Which Had Been Sent Out To Take the Shark in Tow. They Came Into the Possession of the Admiralty."'' As a result, it is not expired Crown Copyright', but probably German WW2 civilian or government copyright, which may not be in the public domain. [[User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry]] ([[User talk:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|talk]]) 20:13, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

These photos were taken by 'a German seaman', to quote the image description: ''"the Pictures Were Taken From a German Trawler Which Had Been Sent Out To Take the Shark in Tow. They Came Into the Possession of the Admiralty."'' As a result, it is not expired Crown Copyright', but probably German WW2 civilian or government copyright, which may not be in the public domain. [[User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry]] ([[User talk:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|talk]]) 20:13, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

:{{vk}} The photographer is unknown, consequently the 70 year rule applies in any country under European conventions on copyright. In the UK, Crown copyright applies as stated for this photograph. --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 12:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

:{{vk}} The photographer is unknown, consequently the 70 year rule applies in any country under European conventions on copyright. In the UK, Crown copyright applies as stated for this photograph. --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 12:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

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::It is not that simple. The 70 years start to count not at the moment when the photograph was taken but when the photograph was published first. Hence, we would need a proof that the photograph was already published in 1942 which appears to be unlikely. And then URAA needs to be considered. --[[User:AFBorchert|AFBorchert]] ([[User talk:AFBorchert|talk]]) 22:27, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

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