Commons:Deletion requests/File:Sir Henry Rider Haggard.png

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::::Of course the photo credits in reliable printed sources would be sufficient. It is not our job to second guess them. Find a source from pre-1923, or a more recent source that indicates where and when it was first published, or who the photographer was (so that we can verify his date of death), or that indicates that the picture is released in the PD: any form of verifiable evidence. As for why this image: let's see, I started an ArbCom case to stop a serial copyright violator, one of the files presented as evidence was this one, no one disputed the evidence, after the case was closed I challenged the PD license on Wikipedia (because it is rather useless to try to stop a copyright violator, and to identify some violations, but then to let them remain unchallenged obviously); and then ''you'' decided suddenly that it needed to be transferred here, with a new date (making it twenty years older) without any evidence to support this change; yes, it seems obvious that ''my'' conduct is the problem here. ''You'' are the one that uploaded a probable and already challenged copyright violation, and it was ''you'' who fabricated a new date for the file out of thin air to defend it; so feel free to raise ''my'' conduct at any location you see fit, but beware the boomerang... [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 14:57, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Of course the photo credits in reliable printed sources would be sufficient. It is not our job to second guess them. Find a source from pre-1923, or a more recent source that indicates where and when it was first published, or who the photographer was (so that we can verify his date of death), or that indicates that the picture is released in the PD: any form of verifiable evidence. As for why this image: let's see, I started an ArbCom case to stop a serial copyright violator, one of the files presented as evidence was this one, no one disputed the evidence, after the case was closed I challenged the PD license on Wikipedia (because it is rather useless to try to stop a copyright violator, and to identify some violations, but then to let them remain unchallenged obviously); and then ''you'' decided suddenly that it needed to be transferred here, with a new date (making it twenty years older) without any evidence to support this change; yes, it seems obvious that ''my'' conduct is the problem here. ''You'' are the one that uploaded a probable and already challenged copyright violation, and it was ''you'' who fabricated a new date for the file out of thin air to defend it; so feel free to raise ''my'' conduct at any location you see fit, but beware the boomerang... [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 14:57, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::excellent, time for a trip. thanks for the regurgitation, but i don't need to raise anything, about your incompetent "malignant assiduity." i will enjoy your crash and burn just like Betacommand. [[User:Slowking4| Slowking4]]⇔[[User_talk:Slowking4| †@1₭]] 01:13, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::excellent, time for a trip. thanks for the regurgitation, but i don't need to raise anything, about your incompetent "malignant assiduity." i will enjoy your crash and burn just like Betacommand. [[User:Slowking4| Slowking4]]⇔[[User_talk:Slowking4| †@1₭]] 01:13, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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::::::No idea what I have done to you to get such an extremely aggressive attitude and personal attacks. Can we stick to this image now and drop the rest? It doesn't help to resolve this one bit. So, back to the topic at hand: if you don't have the evidence that this disputed file really is PD, why did you upload it at Commons? I note from [[Commons:Blocking policy]] that "Insertion of deliberately false information" is a blockable offense here: your invented date for the picture, and PD claims based on (so far) thin air seem to apply here.[[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 08:15, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

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