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{{keep}} because: I'll try to explain to the ignorants. The photo was made in the 1950s, sowith during the cold war. To make photos inside military facilities at that time was illegal and only possible (against the law) by military personel. Civilian visitors (if they had a camera) must drop them at the guardhouse. Official signs allover the fence around military facilities says: "Absolutes Fotografierverbot" and at the guardhouse: "Fotoapparate sind an der Wache abzugeben". Because the cameras wasn't as small as today, it was impossible for an civillian to carry them along the guards. Otherwise, every civilian made illegal photos inside a military facility and caught was suspected as a spy and prosecuted by nervous communist fearing american CIC - not an easy thing to risk for a simple photo anyway. Sowith the photo was made with 99,99% by an memeber of the US Army and under PD US-Gov. (By the way, why should an US Army member not have a "author's collection" ?) -- [[User:Steinbeisser|Steinbeisser]] ([[User talk:Steinbeisser|talk]]) 07:34, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

{{keep}} because: I'll try to explain to the ignorants. The photo was made in the 1950s, sowith during the cold war. To make photos inside military facilities at that time was illegal and only possible (against the law) by military personel. Civilian visitors (if they had a camera) must drop them at the guardhouse. Official signs allover the fence around military facilities says: "Absolutes Fotografierverbot" and at the guardhouse: "Fotoapparate sind an der Wache abzugeben". Because the cameras wasn't as small as today, it was impossible for an civillian to carry them along the guards. Otherwise, every civilian made illegal photos inside a military facility and caught was suspected as a spy and prosecuted by nervous communist fearing american CIC - not an easy thing to risk for a simple photo anyway. Sowith the photo was made with 99,99% by an memeber of the US Army and under PD US-Gov. (By the way, why should an US Army member not have a "author's collection" ?) -- [[User:Steinbeisser|Steinbeisser]] ([[User talk:Steinbeisser|talk]]) 07:34, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

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:It's very likely that this image was made by an Army member, yes. And of course Army members can have photo collections. But to use the PD-USGov-Military-Army tag, it would have to be an official photo "taken or made during the course of the person's official duties", as it says in the tag. Personal photos don't count for this. And I don't see anything telling if this was an official or a personal photo. So unless you can prove it is an official photo, we can't use it. Other photos on this site (http://www.usarmygermany.com/) have explanations like "taken from official barracks brochure" or something like that, which I think suffices to show they're official. This one has only "Source: Author's collection". --[[User:Rosenzweig|Rosenzweig]] [[User talk:Rosenzweig|'''''τ''''']] 11:07, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

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