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*{{vk}} I am not a linguist, but to me "you can publish this work in a GFDL work" and "you can republish this work under GFDL" is the same thing. There is a difference between an incompatible or a restrictive licence and saying the same thing in different words. [[User:Sinnamon|Sinnamon]] ([[User talk:Sinnamon|talk]]) 05:37, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 
*{{vk}} I am not a linguist, but to me "you can publish this work in a GFDL work" and "you can republish this work under GFDL" is the same thing. There is a difference between an incompatible or a restrictive licence and saying the same thing in different words. [[User:Sinnamon|Sinnamon]] ([[User talk:Sinnamon|talk]]) 05:37, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 
**True or false: images that are uploaded saying "you can use this image on Wikipedia" are deleted? I suspect you will agree, true. True or false: images uploaded saying "you can use this image on Wikipedia or Commons" are deleted? I suspect you will again agree, true. True or false: images uploaded saying "you can use this image on Wikipedia, Commons, Wikia, RationalWiki, or CreationWiki" are deleted? Again, I assume you will agree, true. The license they have given is no different than these restrictive licenses - they just have a much longer list of acceptable publications. But allowing you to include it in a GFDL publication is NOT the same as publishing the image under the terms of the GFDL. Quite the contrary, we have plenty of images on Wikipedia and Commons that are not published under the GFDL nor anything resembling the GFDL, even though the text-based contributions are GFDL. --[[User:UserB|UserB]] ([[User talk:UserB|talk]]) 15:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 
**True or false: images that are uploaded saying "you can use this image on Wikipedia" are deleted? I suspect you will agree, true. True or false: images uploaded saying "you can use this image on Wikipedia or Commons" are deleted? I suspect you will again agree, true. True or false: images uploaded saying "you can use this image on Wikipedia, Commons, Wikia, RationalWiki, or CreationWiki" are deleted? Again, I assume you will agree, true. The license they have given is no different than these restrictive licenses - they just have a much longer list of acceptable publications. But allowing you to include it in a GFDL publication is NOT the same as publishing the image under the terms of the GFDL. Quite the contrary, we have plenty of images on Wikipedia and Commons that are not published under the GFDL nor anything resembling the GFDL, even though the text-based contributions are GFDL. --[[User:UserB|UserB]] ([[User talk:UserB|talk]]) 15:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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***I think that is a false analogy, let me demonstrate why (I shall use the same argument structure as you have used). What would you say to the licence that says "You cannot place 'non-commercial' restriction on the work, that this one is a part of"? I would bet you would accept such a licence. What about a licence that says "You must publish any collective work under a free licence"? You would probably again accept such a licence. Now what about the licence that says "The licence of the composite work must be compatible with GFDL"? Again, you would have hard time arguing that such a file should be deleted. This licence says "The aggregate work must be GFDL and only GFDL". If you want to delete this work because of that, you are undermining the whole idea of a viral licence. The creator does have a right to demand that the collective work is distributed under whatever licence, and if such a licence happens to be free (and GFDL definitely is) such a file is permitted per [[COM:L]].
 
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***I will, however, recognise that there is a possibility to read the statement to mean that until the work is published in any collective work, it is not yet under a free licence. But in this context this is an unenforceable restriction, since any category page or a page showing new uploads will automatically become an aggregate work, and thus placing this particular file in GFDL as a part of it. Thus, even if you read the statement as "it is not yet GFDL", it has become GFDL microseconds after being uploaded here. [[User:Sinnamon|Sinnamon]] ([[User talk:Sinnamon|talk]]) 16:16, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

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