Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/03/Category:Trams in Prague
Category:Trams in Prague: corr.
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::::::2) a file or category should be properly categorized into the most specific categories that fits them
::::::2) a file or category should be properly categorized into the most specific categories that fits them
::::::3) categories are defined by item and contain both files and categories which appertain to the item
::::::3) categories are defined by item and contain both files and categories which appertain to the item
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::::::are bacis principles of wiki categorization of Commons. It is not some "my" system but system of Commons. Staying on these principles should not be called "insulting" or "patronising". Implementation of your proposals would severely disturb standard logic of categorization. I understand that the modular system of categorization have its disadvantages. However, it's not a sufficient reason to break, violate and ignore the system. I understand that the detailed categorization of trams is not only useful but also complicating for some kinds of usage. Such categorization is maybe too detailed but not incorrect nor nonsensical, unlike your proposals. I'm convinced that advantages of systematic detailed categorization of hundreds photos of Prague trams are not negligible and disadvantages are not so grave and eccentric that would be a reason for destruction and depreciation of this big work. If some vehicle have its own category, then the category have to by properly categorized by type of vehicle and all the inclused photos must not be categorized directly by type, because they are categorized through the category of the vehicles and the direct categorization would be exemplary overcategorization. I'm conscious that such overcategorization (to pour photos from all subcategories to one big ''unstructured'' group) is attractive and invited for you (and maybe, sometimes also for me) but such solution is fundamentally incompatible with categorization principles which prefer structured content and refuse overcategorization. (ONE place really should contain ALL the photos ''and subcategories'' of a certain type of tram, but it doesn't mean that the photos shouldn't be in appropriate subcategories.) Your desire should be fulfil rather by some software tool which whould enable to browse subcategories in such way. If you would understand the above written arguments promptly, we must not to repeat them in circles in 1000s words. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|talk]]) 12:45, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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::::::are bacis principles of wiki categorization of Commons. It is not some "my" system but system of Commons. Staying on these principles should not be called "insulting" or "patronising". Implementation of your proposals would severely disturb standard logic of categorization. I understand that the modular system of categorization have its disadvantages. However, it's not a sufficient reason to break, violate and ignore the system. I understand that the detailed categorization of trams is not only useful but also complicating for some kinds of usage. Such categorization is maybe too detailed but not incorrect nor nonsensical, unlike your proposals. I'm convinced that advantages of systematic detailed categorization of hundreds photos of Prague trams are not negligible and disadvantages are not so grave and eccentric that would be a reason for destruction and depreciation of this big work. If some vehicle have its own category, then the category have to by properly categorized by type of vehicle and all the inclused photos must not be categorized directly by type, because they are categorized through the category of the vehicles and the direct categorization would be exemplary overcategorization. I'm conscious that such overcategorization (to pour photos from all subcategories to one big ''unstructured'' group) is attractive and invited for you (and maybe, sometimes also for me) but such solution is fundamentally incompatible with categorization principles which prefer structured content and refuse overcategorization. (ONE place really should contain ALL the photos ''and subcategories'' of a certain type of tram, but it doesn't mean that the photos shouldn't be in appropriate subcategories.) Your desire should be fulfil rather by some software tool which would enable to browse subcategories in such way. If you would understand the above written arguments promptly, we must not to repeat them in circles in 1000s words. --[[User:ŠJů|ŠJů]] ([[User talk:ŠJů|talk]]) 12:45, 22 March 2013 (UTC)