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:::::Did you mean one of [[Special:Log/Pitke|these]] files? --[[User:Didym|Didym]] ([[User talk:Didym|talk]]) 11:47, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
:::::Did you mean one of [[Special:Log/Pitke|these]] files? --[[User:Didym|Didym]] ([[User talk:Didym|talk]]) 11:47, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
::::::Yes, [[:File:Beautiful red flowers in garden.jpg]] which would have been uploaded from [http://www.public-domain-image.com/plants/garden-park/slides/beautiful-red-flowers-in-garden.html public-domain-image.com] on a suitable PD licence with the photographer named in the release. The image is not great, but it is 1600x1200 pixels and realistically of an educational purpose. This out of process deletion was neither notified to be by the deleting admin ({{user|Pitke}}), nor was there any deletion discussion or process that I am aware of. Again, I would appreciate some advice on whether I ought to complain in such a scenario, or whether this should be considered normal behaviour for Commons Administrators. Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 12:40, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
::::::Yes, [[:File:Beautiful red flowers in garden.jpg]] which would have been uploaded from [http://www.public-domain-image.com/plants/garden-park/slides/beautiful-red-flowers-in-garden.html public-domain-image.com] on a suitable PD licence with the photographer named in the release. The image is not great, but it is 1600x1200 pixels and realistically of an educational purpose. This out of process deletion was neither notified to be by the deleting admin ({{user|Pitke}}), nor was there any deletion discussion or process that I am aware of. Again, I would appreciate some advice on whether I ought to complain in such a scenario, or whether this should be considered normal behaviour for Commons Administrators. Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 12:40, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
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:::::::Hi Fæ, after looking into it, yes, this deletion seems to be out of procedure. If happening in single (or few) instances, a direct contact to the deleting admin might be best (which I've done now). Only if that doesn't help or if it concerns a huge number of files, a AN complaint might be justified. --[[User:Túrelio|Túrelio]] ([[User talk:Túrelio|talk]]) 13:05, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
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:Hi [[User:Fæ|Fæ]], on the principle admins delete without review a lot of files, generally files witout proper licence, proper permissions, obvious copyvios or even out of scope images. Personally I believe that notifying the contributors is the good thing to do so I generally tag, notify and delete. As we are humans and have a huge backlog to process, we may forget to notify sometimes. --[[User:PierreSelim|PierreSelim]] ([[User talk:PierreSelim|talk]]) 10:43, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
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:Hi [[User:Fæ|Fæ]], on the principle admins delete without review a lot of files, generally files without proper licence, proper permissions, obvious copyvios or even out of scope images. Personally I believe that notifying the contributors is the good thing to do so I generally tag, notify and delete. As we are humans and have a huge backlog to process, we may forget to notify sometimes. --[[User:PierreSelim|PierreSelim]] ([[User talk:PierreSelim|talk]]) 10:43, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
::I am familiar with [[Commons:Administrators#What is an administrator?]], this includes deleting files in certain circumstances, but specifically does not include deleting files based on a personal assessment of quality in the list of typical actions. The scenario I am raising was not a copyright problem (the file would have been public domain), the source would have been good and there was no other explanation other than the Admin thought the file was of a lesser quality than other images on Commons - a deletion rationale that I would have expected to require the support of a Deletion request or similar consensus process. Could you point to a guideline or policy that includes such a scenario and advises as to the norms that apply here for the behaviour of administrators? Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 10:56, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
::I am familiar with [[Commons:Administrators#What is an administrator?]], this includes deleting files in certain circumstances, but specifically does not include deleting files based on a personal assessment of quality in the list of typical actions. The scenario I am raising was not a copyright problem (the file would have been public domain), the source would have been good and there was no other explanation other than the Admin thought the file was of a lesser quality than other images on Commons - a deletion rationale that I would have expected to require the support of a Deletion request or similar consensus process. Could you point to a guideline or policy that includes such a scenario and advises as to the norms that apply here for the behaviour of administrators? Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 10:56, 18 March 2013 (UTC)