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::There's also [[:File:Flag of Austria and Germany.svg|the alternate version]]. --[[User:Ricordisamoa|Ricordi]][[User talk:Ricordisamoa|samoa]] 10:15, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

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== [[Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/03/Category:Trams in Prague]] ==

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I'm sorry for the cross posting both on the village pump and here, but I don't really know where to go with this (en.wiki has much more defined procedures and many more noticeboards than commons, here I feel a little lost). The discussion at [[Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/03/Category:Trams in Prague]] has been going on for about a week now, and I don't see a solution in the future without the input from others.

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The problem comes down to the way the photos of Trams in Prague are categorised. Currently there are categories within [[:Category:Škoda 15T in Prague]] for specific tram models such as: [[:Category:Škoda 15T in Prague]], but that category doesn't have any pictures, instead it just has one category for each individual vehicle (listed by number, a complete list is at: [[:Category:Trams in Prague by registration number]]) this makes finding pictures incredibly hard. There are over 1000 categories containing 2000 pictures, most categories contain only one or two pictures, with many containing only other categories - another tram number that that vehicle has been renumbered as, but no explanation to that.

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When I raised a proposal to upmerge all pictures it was opposed, I have tried to bring up numerous solutions where the categorisation by number system could sit side by side with a "all Tatra T3 photos in ONE category" system, but it is opposed no end. And all possible solutions I've brought up have been called "incorrect nor nonsensical" and "fundamentally incompatible with categorization principles". I don't feel that the editors in question want any change, and as such will argue tooth and nail against any change. This is why I would appreciate outside voices to weigh in, there has to be a solution in there somewhere, I just don't feel I can get one by myself. Can some admins have a look and maybe make a proposal or decision to solve this quandary? I hope that this dispute can be solved in a way that makes all happy, but don't see it happening without the input from others. I would also ask what precedent this highly detailed level of categorisation sets for the commons as a project (it really does make it unworkable trying to find pictures unless you are looking for a picture of a specific tram, which I'm not), it could/would apply to all rail vehicles by number as well as aircraft, ships etc, it is about on par with sub-categorising cars by colour ("Blue BMW M3s" etc) or by registration number. [[User:Liamdavies|Liamdavies]] ([[User talk:Liamdavies|talk]]) 15:58, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

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