Category talk:Subnational entities

‎This page is of no distinctive apprehension of any term justifying being a separate category from Category:Country subdivisions: + comment
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::I agree this category structure is a mess, and there are subcats here that may or may not belong. However, I am also not sure that subnational entity = country subdivision. As stated above, subnational entities are a type of country subdivision, the two terms are not interchangeable, and the former typically has a degree of autonomy that not all types of subdivisions enjoy. That doesn't mean I am wed to the term "subnational entities", but I do feel a distinction needs to be maintained between subdivisions with a degree of legal autonomy and those that are merely created for administrative convenience. In any event, you should propose how you envision a new category structure working. You seem to have created a whole new category tree for something called "subnational regions", which seems to a whole new level of duplication (but I can't say for sure, because it's not clear what you propose big picture). --[[User:Skeezix1000|Skeezix1000]] ([[User talk:Skeezix1000|talk]]) 14:13, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 
::I agree this category structure is a mess, and there are subcats here that may or may not belong. However, I am also not sure that subnational entity = country subdivision. As stated above, subnational entities are a type of country subdivision, the two terms are not interchangeable, and the former typically has a degree of autonomy that not all types of subdivisions enjoy. That doesn't mean I am wed to the term "subnational entities", but I do feel a distinction needs to be maintained between subdivisions with a degree of legal autonomy and those that are merely created for administrative convenience. In any event, you should propose how you envision a new category structure working. You seem to have created a whole new category tree for something called "subnational regions", which seems to a whole new level of duplication (but I can't say for sure, because it's not clear what you propose big picture). --[[User:Skeezix1000|Skeezix1000]] ([[User talk:Skeezix1000|talk]]) 14:13, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::This sensible explanation of your way to clear-view a vague, ultra-minor distinction between a "country subdivision" and a "subnational entity" each sounding to me like a synonym of the other, shows little care for the fact that at present the content of Subnational entities demonstrates what to me looks like an amazingly reasonless detachment of some categories from their evidently direct parent not to mention the straight "Category:Subdivisions of (Country)"'s whose selective-like placement at this exclusive parent seems meaningless (what have the subdivisions of Serbia, Italy and the US in common that just they merit being called "subnational entities"?). With no connection, you sadly mix the (brilliant) [[:Category:Subnational regions in Europe|Subnational regions]] thread (which draws uptree to [[:Category:Country subdivisions]]) with the duty that I was filling here in this category. Instead, why not try to clarify the logic behind the selection of the specific items that currently populate "Subnational entities". [[User:Orrling|Orrling]][[User talk:Orrling|talk]] 15:01, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::This sensible explanation of your way to clear-view a vague, ultra-minor distinction between a "country subdivision" and a "subnational entity" each sounding to me like a synonym of the other, shows little care for the fact that at present the content of Subnational entities demonstrates what to me looks like an amazingly reasonless detachment of some categories from their evidently direct parent not to mention the straight "Category:Subdivisions of (Country)"'s whose selective-like placement at this exclusive parent seems meaningless (what have the subdivisions of Serbia, Italy and the US in common that just they merit being called "subnational entities"?). With no connection, you sadly mix the (brilliant) [[:Category:Subnational regions in Europe|Subnational regions]] thread (which draws uptree to [[:Category:Country subdivisions]]) with the duty that I was filling here in this category. Instead, why not try to clarify the logic behind the selection of the specific items that currently populate "Subnational entities". [[User:Orrling|Orrling]][[User talk:Orrling|talk]] 15:01, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 
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::::Orrling, I would be happy to discuss this with you once you are prepared to have an adult discussion. Nobody will take you seriously if all you are prepared to do is engage in mindless insults. When you are ready to have a serious discussion, please let me know. --[[User:Skeezix1000|Skeezix1000]] ([[User talk:Skeezix1000|talk]]) 12:43, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:An example: In Belgium, the 3 Regions (Wallonia, Brussels, Flanders) are having the competencies about the territory, the Communities (Flemish, French, German) about people, education and concerned language. Regions and communities don't map on each other. --[[User:Foroa|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa|talk]]) 14:28, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:An example: In Belgium, the 3 Regions (Wallonia, Brussels, Flanders) are having the competencies about the territory, the Communities (Flemish, French, German) about people, education and concerned language. Regions and communities don't map on each other. --[[User:Foroa|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa|talk]]) 14:28, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

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