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Category talk:Caribou (clothing)

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: The name is part of a system, which names all furs with the English name, see [[:Category:Furs_by_species]]. The reason is, the fur trade traditionell use this names, only in the newer time the Latin names became more important, because species protection (CITES). Very often the name is not the same as the biological name of the animal! In the fur branch the fur of young reindeers are named Pijicki, in the past they were used for clothing. The skins of elder reindeers are only used for garment by the natives of the northern countries, in other countries they are only bought for decoration. A possible differentiation between European and American Rangifer tarandus could be caribou and reindeer. But I am not abble to differentiate them, when I see a photo, not even when I hold a skin in my hand... --- I prefer to keep this name, each change should consider the use in the fur trade. Thanks for assisting, regards from Germany --[[User:Kürschner|Kürschner]] ([[User talk:Kürschner|talk]]) 07:02, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

: The name is part of a system, which names all furs with the English name, see [[:Category:Furs_by_species]]. The reason is, the fur trade traditionell use this names, only in the newer time the Latin names became more important, because species protection (CITES). Very often the name is not the same as the biological name of the animal! In the fur branch the fur of young reindeers are named Pijicki, in the past they were used for clothing. The skins of elder reindeers are only used for garment by the natives of the northern countries, in other countries they are only bought for decoration. A possible differentiation between European and American Rangifer tarandus could be caribou and reindeer. But I am not abble to differentiate them, when I see a photo, not even when I hold a skin in my hand... --- I prefer to keep this name, each change should consider the use in the fur trade. Thanks for assisting, regards from Germany --[[User:Kürschner|Kürschner]] ([[User talk:Kürschner|talk]]) 07:02, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

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::Thank you for the information – I had not realized there was such a system. It is perfectly possible to create another category for reindeer clothing (that is, the clothing made by Sami and Siberian peoples). However, since the distinction between caribou and reindeer is a matter of language and not of species, I thought it might be easier to keep them in one category and simply change the name.

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::Isn't this, however, part of a bigger problem? Which fur trade are we considering? Is there really a unified system of labels which is in use all over the world? And if such a system exists, where do we find the information on what names to use?

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::Is there no name in the fur trade which covers both caribou and Eurasian reindeer? I doubt that "caribou" can have been used in Europe for fur of Eurasian reindeer. It must also be noted that most of the photos in the category are of native clothing, so for this particular species native use might be more important to consider than the fur trade.--[[User:Skogsfrun|Skogsfrun]] ([[User talk:Skogsfrun|talk]]) 12:30, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

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